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The Most Important Question About the 2020 Election
Townhall.com ^ | January 26, 2021 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 01/26/2021 4:59:45 AM PST by Kaslin

Since the day after the 2020 presidential election, I have said I am agnostic with regard to whether the election was honestly or dishonestly decided.

The primary reasons for my agnosticism are the usual ones:

The anomalies:

In 132 years, no president has received more votes in his run for reelection and lost. Yet Donald Trump received 10 million more votes in 2020 than in 2016 -- and lost.

Trump won 18 of the 19 counties both Democrats and Republicans regard as the "bellwether" counties that virtually always go with the outcome of presidential elections. Yet he lost.

He won four bellwether states -- Florida, Ohio, Iowa and North Carolina. Yet he lost.

Republicans held onto all the House seats they were defending and gained another 13 seats. Yet, Trump lost.

Add the following to the anomalies:

Unprecedented efforts were made in some states to change election laws.

Mostly Democratic states sent out tens of millions of ballots or applications for absentee ballots to people who never requested them.

Voting began in some states six weeks before Election Day.

People have submitted sworn affidavits at great personal cost and with possible perjury charges that they witnessed ballot tampering on election night.

But all these things would matter little if Democrats involved in ballot-counting felt morally compelled to count votes honestly.

So, then, there is one question I have never heard posed that trumps all other considerations: Would moral considerations prevent Democrats from cheating to oust Trump? Or, to put the question in the positive: Would Democrats deem it morally obligatory to cheat on behalf of Joe Biden?

The answer to the first question is no: Moral considerations would not prevent decent Democrats from cheating to prevent Trump's reelection. The answer to the second question is yes: Decent Democrats would deem it morally obligatory to cheat on behalf of Biden.

For four years, the media and their party, the Democrats, told us every day that Trump is a fascist, a dictator, a racist and a white supremacist; that he was an agent of the Russian government -- a real-life Manchurian candidate. We were also repeatedly told by the lying media (Trump's accurate description of the mainstream media) that in Charlottesville, Virginia, Trump said there are "very fine" Nazis (see the PragerU video, "The Charlottesville Lie"). Yes, the media told us with a straight face that a man with a Jewish daughter, Jewish son-in-law and Jewish grandchildren said there are fine Nazis. Biden said he decided to run for president because of this lie.

So, then, here is the question: Why would anyone who sincerely believed Trump is a white-supremacist fascist dictator not cheat if he or she could prevent such a person from becoming or remaining president of the United States?

Let me sharpen this question: Isn't someone who could prevent a fascist, white-supremacist, Nazi-defending dictator morally obligated to cheat if he or she could prevent such a person from becoming president?

I certainly would. If I were in a position to cheat in order to prevent a fascist from becoming president, why would I not cheat? I think of the most relevant example: the Nazis in the 1932 elections, Germany's last free election until after World War II. Though the Nazi Party did not receive a majority of votes, the Nazis held the most seats in the Reichstag, and the head of the party, Adolf Hitler, was named chancellor of Germany. If I were in a position to have prevented the Nazis from coming to power by cheating in the vote-count, wouldn't I have been morally obligated to do so -- and therefore done so? The answer is obvious.

To repeat, I have never said Biden did not win the election. And even if there was considerable fraud, that doesn't mean the election result would have been different.

But there are consequences to beliefs. Unless Democrats knew they were lying for four years when they labelled Trump a fascist, racist, Nazi, dictator, etc., were they not duty-bound to cheat on Biden's behalf? So, then, when you have circumstantial evidence (not proof), combined with opportunity, desire, motive and, most important, no moral argument against cheating and a strong moral argument for cheating, it isn't a "lie," and it isn't a crackpot conspiracy theory, to wonder about the integrity of America's 2020 presidential election.


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1 posted on 01/26/2021 4:59:45 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
I have been making a similar argument.

I have not seen it refuted.

2 posted on 01/26/2021 5:05:22 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: Kaslin

Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame) has been making this point in many of his vids going back at least a few weeks.

Indeed, ‘Rats would feel morally *obligated* to cheat, given that they are literally removing hitler.


3 posted on 01/26/2021 5:05:36 AM PST by C210N (You can trust government or you can understand history. But you CANNOT do both.)
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To: Kaslin
Kind of a weak, cheesy way to approach the subject - but the author leaves out the Democrat history of cheating in elections. It's not as though it's unusual for them to cheat, vigorously, at every opportunity.

The worst part is that no agencies at all of our "government" investigated anything and no courts supported investigating.

Therefore, it will always be an open sore, an unresolved question hanging over all political issues and a large portion of our country will always believe that the Biden presidency is illegitimate.

4 posted on 01/26/2021 5:09:49 AM PST by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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To: Kaslin

Dennis, there was ample proof.

But if the decision makers will not open their eyes, no amount of “proof” is enough.


5 posted on 01/26/2021 5:15:55 AM PST by sauropod (#RecallMcConnell. #Resist. #NotMyPresident.)
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To: Chainmail

LBJ was an illegitimate Senator. Didn’t the Kennedys do vite harvesting by paying poll taxes?


6 posted on 01/26/2021 5:19:37 AM PST by KDF48 (Redeemed by Christ.)
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To: Kaslin

It was rigged. They used every available method to steal. Biggest was mail ins. They could make as many as they wanted and truck them in. Used the US mail system. Remember the mail truck full that traveled across the state line and disappeared. We heard nothing else about it. They planned this for years.

1 - They harvested ballots... wasn’t enough.
2 - They used the dominion system to flip votes electronically, probly about 5 million or so. It was not enough.
3 - Used mail in ballots. I would imagine close to 10 million.

When 1 didn’t work they flipped as many as they could but the landslide amount of votes Trump received broke the machine. So they shut it down and brought in the mail ins and started counting in the dead of night.

When they changed the election laws illegally the ballots counted in that way should have been eliminated. The way they shut things down and counted with no one around should have been investigated to the max and by law when they quit counting at 2 then it should have ended and election over. The GA recount should have been signature matched. And other states with the proof of fraud should have been a true audit. People should have been arrested when the GA video came out. Judges should heard evidence.

If there was nothing to hide then these states should have been recounted correctly. Maybe people should have came out and peacefully protested in these states in overwhelming force right after the election. But I would never blame us for letting this happen. Our legislatures failed us. Our system failed us. And our Republican politicians failed us. But now we know that it was a group effort. They want to go back to business as usual. We voted in someone that was not a politician and it’s the best thing we could have ever did. We needed another 4 years to really get going. Now we have a uphill battle to fight. They got what they wanted, it’s over guys and girls. It’s happening the exact way they knew it would and the way they wanted. It’s now over so move on is what they wanted.


7 posted on 01/26/2021 5:23:43 AM PST by glimmerman70
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In at least one reported 2020 voting fraud incident, election officials hand-counted votes
then put the ballots through the FIXED DOMINION machine and came up with MORE BIDEN VOTES
than the hand-counts showed.

The flabbergasted officials redid the process——and again the machine came up with MORE votes for Biden

It’s in black and white-—— in their training manual:
<><> The Dominion tallying system is engineered with a WEIGHTED VOTE option.
<><> You enter a percentage that you want to apply to votes in a particular race;
<><> Dominion machines will increase the vote total by that percentage.
Is this used for anything else but to steal elections?

ONE DATA EXPERT OBSERVES:
<><> 200,000 Pennsylvania Ballots Were Modified AFTER the Election –
<><> A Sampling of 100,000 Arizona Ballots Show ‘Material Amount’ Aren’t Even Real People

=======================REFERENCE===================

justhenews.com
John Solomon’s web site
By Daniel Payne / Updated: November 20, 2020 - 7:42am

Dominion voting software can permit staff to manually adjust ballot returns during counting process
Process of “adjudication” allows for “resolution of voter intent.”

Voting software deployed by the election hardware company Dominion Voting Systems can allow election staffers to manually adjust tally amounts while reviewing scanned ballot images, a process that the company says allows for “resolution of voter intent” in cases where ballot marks are unclear.

Dominion has been at the center of tumultuous controversy since the election amid reports of glitchy and/or unreliable voting software and hardware. The company has a presence in a majority of U.S. states, including critical battleground states in which Democratic challenger Joe Biden has been declared the winner by major media outlets.

President Trump has suggested that malfeasance by Dominion is responsible for the narrow edge in posted vote totals that Biden holds in those states. Dominion, meanwhile, has unequivocally denied any wrongdoing or errors within its machines.

“No credible reports or evidence of any software issues exist,” the company has stated on its website. “Dominion equipment is used by county and state officials to tabulate ballots. Human errors related to reporting tabulated results have arisen in a few counties, including some using Dominion equipment, but appropriate procedural actions have been taken by the county to address these errors were made prior to the canvass process.”

The company also stated that “vote deletion/switching assertions” that have circulated since the election are “completely false.”

‘Anybody who has Dominion has this’

The company has claimed that “it is not possible for a bad actor to change election results without detection.” Dominion does, meanwhile, allow at least one avenue for manual adjustment of vote tallies as part of a process known as “adjudication.”

Santa Clara County, California, as part of its agreement with Dominion Voting Systems, stipulates that the company’s software must allow county staff “to adjust tally based on review of scanned ballot images.”

Evelyn Mendez, the public information officer for the Santa Clara County Registrar of Voters, said that “the wording [in the contract] is a little weird,” but that it refers to a provision meant to ensure that “adjudication” of uncertain votes can occur.

Adjudication, Mendez told Just the News, is used in circumstances such as when there’s a contest in which a single candidate must be chosen yet “someone votes for two.”

“It’s the process of looking at the ballot and determining, ‘Did the voter mean to do that’?” she said.

“If someone puts in a dot instead of a checkmark,” she added, “or if they didn’t bubble it the right way, our staff are looking at the ballot and confirming what’s correct.”

Mendez, who stressed that staffers are looking not at actual ballots but at scanned images of them, said that the process is performed by two individuals.


8 posted on 01/26/2021 5:30:11 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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THIS JUST IN:
SOURCE: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/shocking-democrats-first-bill-2021-lock-fraudulent-elections-forever/

SHOCKING: The Democrats’ First Bill of 2021 Locks In Fraudulent Elections Forever

The 2020 fraud was massive, the worst in recorded history, but it is nothing compared to what the Democrats have in store for the future of the USA and the world.

In their first act, Congress is ready to pass a bill allowing all future US elections to be run exactly as any tin pot communist regime.

The Populist Press is reporting the first bill put together by the Pelosi-led Congress will eliminate free and fair elections forever. Fraud will be the mandate and Democrats, the kings of fraud, will win every election henceforth. The bill is labeled by the Communist Democrats – “For the People Act of 2021“.

Below are the key aspects of the bill as noted by the Populist Press: Democrats’ first bill in the House: H.R.1 – will keep Democrats in power in perpetuity: mandates . Nationwide mail-in voting, all-out legalized ballot harvesting, banning voter ID, unleashong criminal voters, DC Statehood, it’s all in the one bill.

—snip— rest at gatewaypundit.com


9 posted on 01/26/2021 5:31:09 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: Kaslin

It is so obvious the DNC puppetmeisters stole the election — we are now into an illegitimate dictatorship which is intent on bringing USA to its knees — and taking away what remain if our diminishing individual liberties. Think communist China.


10 posted on 01/26/2021 5:32:58 AM PST by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Kaslin
Would Democrats deem it morally obligatory to cheat on behalf of Joe Biden?

Three things you can take to the bank: Democrats feel they are both morally, ethically and intellectually superior to Republicans and or conservatives.

11 posted on 01/26/2021 5:33:36 AM PST by Michael.SF. (I believe you Tony B.)
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To: Kaslin
Please remind me, which side is forcefully suppressing all mention of voter fraud?

12 posted on 01/26/2021 5:36:21 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Money is a metaphor for power, so those who love money love power and vice-versa...... Gennen, the guy that was at the head of ITT said it wasn’t how much money you had but how much you had ‘access’ to.

Those who run for political office in our nation are after both ...Trump was the exception and a few others.


13 posted on 01/26/2021 5:42:15 AM PST by caww (“For the people” and “For the children” - signals we're about to be scammed)
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To: marktwain
I have been making a similar argument.

I have not seen it refuted.

You can make all the claims and all the arguments you want. But until people are charged, arrested, tried, convicted, and jailed for the kind of vote fraud that is alleged then it can be, and will be, dismissed by the media and most people. Trump had the Justice Department and the U.S. attorneys for four year. He could have been investigating vote fraud from the 2018 and 2016 elections and even earlier elections but he didn't. That's a major opportunity lost. Now it's up to state Attorney Generals to prosecute 2020 election fraud. I confess I'm not optimistic.

14 posted on 01/26/2021 5:43:42 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Chainmail

It’s not only a weak, cheesy approach to the subject, it is an attempt to avoid truth so as to remain acceptable to “polite” society. Prager always pulls this “both sides of the argument” crap.


15 posted on 01/26/2021 5:48:06 AM PST by Avalon Memories (I will only ever refer to Biden by his new nickname...Asterisk. )
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To: DoodleDawg
Trump had the Justice Department

Not really.

He appointed Jeff Sessions, as worthless of an AG as there ever was (Reno may be an exception).

Trump did not clear the DOJ of Obama appointees and he did not fire Comey soon enough.

IMHO, those are the three biggest mistakes made by Trump.

16 posted on 01/26/2021 5:58:25 AM PST by Michael.SF. (I believe you Tony B.)
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To: Kaslin

He was beaten by make-believe voters, that only exist as a mark on a ballot, approved by a criminal.


17 posted on 01/26/2021 6:06:57 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Who the hell would throw shit at a fan?)
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To: C210N
‘Rats would feel morally *obligated* to cheat, given that they are literally removing hitler.

Actually, it should be "figuratively" removing Hitler, since Hitler has been dead a long time.

18 posted on 01/26/2021 6:09:28 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (If liberals had a conscience, they wouldn't be liberals. )
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To: Kaslin

The obsession with the Biden vote (80 million!) is correct as far as it goes.

But there were three candidates, not two, in 2020.

Trump got 74 million honest votes.

The other two candidates - Joe Biden, and “You’re Fired” may very well have split >74 million votes. How many of those Biden got will never be known.


19 posted on 01/26/2021 6:15:39 AM PST by Jim Noble (Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning)
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To: Kaslin

>>I am agnostic with regard to whether the election was honestly or dishonestly decided.

Dishonest because the courts and governors changes election law when that was the power of the LEGISLATURE.

Dishonest because there were unequal standards in accepting/approving ballots within a state. There is precedence at the Supreme Court that this is unacceptable.

There was illegal ballot harvesting in Texas - buying votes, coercing elderly voters into voting straight Democrat and harassing them when they’d check off a Republican name and telling them how to “correct” that. THOUSANDS (over 4000) of votes were affected by one woman, alone.


20 posted on 01/26/2021 6:17:36 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Call on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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