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Trump Was No Reagan?
Chronicles ^ | January 21, 2021 | Paul Gottfried

Posted on 01/22/2021 5:30:45 AM PST by Ebenezer

National Review has found yet another reason to hate Trump, whom it has attacked relentlessly for over four years. It seems that among his multiple shortcomings, according to Frank Lavin, a supporter of Republican Voters Against Trump in 2020, Donald Trump was not the Gipper. In fact, he caused the Republican Party to deviate grievously from Reagan’s policies; and so it now behooves us to save the GOP by returning to the proven “conservative” teachings of the president whose approval ratings approached 70 percent shortly after leaving office.

Lavin offers a study in contrast between the Gipper and Trump. In most ways (except in his tax-slashing and deregulation policies), Trump dragged the GOP away from the firm foundations that Reagan bequeathed to his followers. For example, Reagan had “values,” while presumably the Donald has none that we can praise. While Reagan stressed cooperation with the opposite party, Trump was always at war with the Dems. Or as Lavin tells it: “Reagan occasionally found support from Speaker Tip O’Neill. Trump ended up with nothing from Speaker Pelosi.” The contrast continues with Lavin noting: “Reagan set the stage for NAFTA with his call for a ‘North American Accord.’ Trump sided with Bernie Sanders in withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.”

Allow me to point out that Trump did not scuttle the idea of trade deals with Canada and Mexico. He renegotiated them in a way advantageous to the American working class. He also renegotiated those parts of the TPP that he found helpful to the American work force, although pace Lavin and National Review, I don’t recall Bernie Sanders leaping to Trump’s defense.

In another National Review piece, this time by Alexander William Salter, I admit to being bewildered by this passage: “It’s true that some of the Trump administration’s policies, notably on immigration and international trade, were deviations from conservative orthodoxy, but these were hardly successes.” Was the “conservative orthodoxy” to which we should be returning the absence of border walls? And how was Trump unsuccessful if he stopped the flow of illegals into the U.S., even in the face of massive opposition from the Democrats and from members of his own party?

Was Reagan’s amnesty in 1986 something that Trump should have imitated? I can’t imagine why. The only beneficiaries were the corporate interests that gained cheap labor, and the public sector that issued welfare checks to unemployed Americans. That amnesty did nothing to relieve the continuing problem of illegal immigration, and Reagan later spoke of it as “the biggest regret” of his life.

Returning to Lavin’s piece, it’s important to realize that he ignores a changing historical context. In the 1980s, the Democratic Party of Tip O’Neill bore little resemblance to the party that Trump had to confront as his relentless enemy. Back then Democrats were still a party of blue-collar workers (a class that Trump tried to bring into his populist movement). Tip O’Neill was an Irish Catholic ward-heeler from Boston, who represented a working-class base; Nancy Pelosi by contrast speaks for culturally radical San Franciscans in a transformed Democratic Party, which today features LGBTQ demands, anti-white hysteria, Green New Deals, and which fights the gender identity war. Why would anyone think that Trump would not have gotten along with Tip as well as Ronnie did; or that Reagan would have enjoyed a better relationship with the present Democratic Party than Trump has? We are speaking about different forces of opposition to the GOP in two different eras.

Although Reagan faced critics in the leftist media, as someone who briefly served in his administration, let me assure Mr. Lavin that this sniping was nothing like the nonstop, venomous attacks to which Trump was subjected from the moment he declared his candidacy for the presidency. I have no idea how anyone but an absolute saint would not have exploded in the face of such slander; and it was directed not only against the president but also against his wife and young son. Never in my long life have I seen such a feeding frenzy.

Attacks on Trump as another Hitler and calls for assaults on him became commonplace over the last four years; and I strongly suspect that if Reagan has been forced to deal with such adversaries his approval rating and his temper would both have taken a hit. Reagan left office with a 63 percent approval rating, which by 1989 went up to 68 percent. We might ask what that approval rating would have been if the media threw dirt at him incessantly and if his congressional opponents incited riots against him throughout his presidency. Please note these attacks occurred not just because the Donald was intemperate in his language. The Left wanted power, and it was necessary to destroy Trump’s presidency to achieve it.

Finally, I would note that, unlike Reagan, Trump tried to be a transformative president who took his own party kicking and screaming into the populist form that he gave it. Although an honest, dedicated leader, Reagan transformed nothing. He also ended up turning foreign policy and much else over to the neoconservatives, who hang around like the political equivalent of the COVID-19 pandemic.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; nationalreview; reagan; ronaldreagan; trump
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To: Ebenezer

Even if you didn’t “like” him, Reagan was likeable. Trump took some getting used to, after which I liked him just fine.


41 posted on 01/22/2021 10:06:50 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Ebenezer

Actually Reagan was no Trump.


42 posted on 01/22/2021 11:47:09 AM PST by itsahoot (Skill to intrepret auto correct is necessary to read my posts, understanding them is another matter.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

agree.


43 posted on 01/22/2021 3:39:38 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I agree. I would like those who criticize President Trump go through what he went through for 4 years. Then all of his so called friends turned on him because they lacked the courage to do what had to be done to restore Constitutional Government. Voting as 2020 proved is no longer an option. The Democrats proved that they will no longer honor and adhere to laws they helped enact and agreed to. It will take bloodshed to restore Constitutional Government. Because the Democrats, evil will not leave unless they are forcibly ejected. Throughout history, it has been shown the only way to stop evil is through the use of greater force. This we refused to do. I cannot count the times that it has been posted to me throughout the four years “They will not tale over here because we got guns!” Well. They did take over and we had guns. But we won’t have then long because Joe and Kamala or maybe just Kamala after they get rid of Joe are coming after them.


44 posted on 01/22/2021 4:00:05 PM PST by sport
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To: Hojczyk; dfwgator

“Reagan’s biggest mistake the first George Bush...”

He didn’t really have free choice. Reagan would have liked to have chosen his good friend and fellow governor Paul Laxalt.

Despite having been California governor Reagan was an outsider and not popular with the Republican establishment. In order to guarantee the support of that GOP establishment in the general election Reagan had to let them choose his VP. But I don’t know why he didn’t dump GHWB in 1984 and take Laxalt for his 2nd term.


45 posted on 01/22/2021 7:19:37 PM PST by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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To: Slyfox
Different era. Old school Democrats like Jimmy Carter were not the enemy.

Today, the Left wants to destroy America as we know it. They've succeeded so far but half of the population are not with the program. So they are trying to destroy us. So they will dominate us.

46 posted on 01/22/2021 7:23:27 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Ebenezer

Did not read whole article. Too late. Skimmed top and bottom.

A bit over the top in critique.

But, I will still say, Trump is no Reagan. Unpopular to say here, but I’m not afraid to.

It should be obvious. There is no way Trump ever had any kind of serious “landslide”. If he did, there would be zero way for Dems to get away with fraud. Reagan had the genius of communication - not just speeches. And he had the flawless character.

Dems try to call him the Teflon President - but I see that as a positive. Reagan had no real flaws so of course nothing would stick to him.

This made him hard to hate. Coupled with the other positives, Reagan won even more overwhelmingly the 2nd time. There was no closeness at all to either of his elections.


47 posted on 01/22/2021 8:51:10 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: stars & stripes forever

Who was?

No way Trump is. Washington would’ve not been over happy with Trump, just on a personal basis.


48 posted on 01/22/2021 8:54:28 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: Slyfox

Check the English.


49 posted on 01/22/2021 8:57:58 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: the OlLine Rebel

It’s a meme.


50 posted on 01/22/2021 10:25:58 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: Slyfox

It should read, “bookends AROUND a whole lot...”


51 posted on 01/23/2021 7:46:19 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Around is binding them together with a big rubber band.

Between indicates between two points.

I am going to keep it the way I designed it.

52 posted on 01/23/2021 9:09:37 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: Slyfox

OK, but it’s still wrong. Look up any discussion of “between” vs “among”.

Try “bookends with a lot of crap between”.

Then you can keep your “between”. Because you are saying the 2 are between crap now, surrounded by it.


53 posted on 01/23/2021 9:25:34 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: the OlLine Rebel
You are being petty over a meme.

Get over yourself.

54 posted on 01/23/2021 10:24:56 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: Ebenezer
Trump Was No Reagan?

He wasn't. And Reagan was no Trump. Each man was exceptional in his own way.

55 posted on 01/23/2021 10:34:40 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Slyfox

It’s a legitimate critique. Perhaps I could’ve just taken it to FR mail.


56 posted on 01/23/2021 11:08:15 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: the OlLine Rebel

No. Don’t bother. I am tired of this discussion.


57 posted on 01/23/2021 11:55:54 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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