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To: webheart
This old man George is not the same Dubya we all remembered on 9/11 when he stood on the ruins of Twin Towers with a bullhorn.

Like you said, the Left had bullied him into submission and George just gave up. He is an old man now at 74 years old. A shell of what he used to be.

25 posted on 01/20/2021 7:47:10 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican; webheart

Dubya was like this from day one. He just had a lot of you fooled.

When we fought to pass Prop 187 back in 1994, Bush flew out here from Texas to side with Mexico’s illegal aliens and against the grassroots voters of California who wanted to send them home.

That’s the real Dubya, the same one who prefers Obama and Biden to Trump.


33 posted on 01/20/2021 8:00:08 PM PST by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Nope

He was open border Bush then

And this forum was stupid

Sorry

We have just learned what baring a few exceptions the GOPe has always been since 1860

Kept afloat by a handful of stars who stood out and the rear uniparty professionals

That’s the truth

Modern era

You got Reagan

Goldwater

Helms

A few decent senators and governors and freedom caucus and newt at times

The rest are Mitch McConnell gutless wonders

The Bushes were simply effing 1976 moderate Carter Democrats

Jody Powell
Bert Lance
Hamilton Jordan

Anyone could have worked for any of the Bushes


70 posted on 01/20/2021 10:58:10 PM PST by wardaddy ( IN 1999 JIM THOMPSON WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE BUSHES ...WE WERE WRONG)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“This old man George is not the same Dubya we all remembered on 9/11 when he stood on the ruins of Twin Towers with a bullhorn.”

Nope, he’s the exact same man. Any politician in that situation would have done that with the bullhorn. Sure it’s iconic, but literally any political type (except Obama) could pull that off.

The real Bush though : Bush campaigned on a conservative, non-nation building platform. He spent his first term acting like he was mopping up Clinton mess, handling the aftermath of 9/11 at home, bombing Iraq, and subsequently kicking off the nation building he campaigned against. Then, right before the 2004 election, he went and expanded Medicare.

After he was re-elected, he tried to privatize social security for, what was it, 15 or 20 minutes? He gave up ... the elite Rs and Ds didn’t want that since it would mean that they’d have to admit that they spend that money the instant it arrives. He didn’t want to fight them since he more than likely privately agreed with them.

After that fiasco, he didn’t do a damn thing but pander to the left and let them walk all over him. Hurricane Katrina response was 100% the result of Democratic policy, yet most in this country blame Bush (and, by extension, conservatism) for anything and everything that went wrong there. The mayor (Nagin) and the governor at the time (I want to say Blanco ... Kathleen?) were 100% failures when it came to leadership, but Bush took all of the blame.

His ineffectiveness cost the Rs a sizable lead in the Senate and the House in 2006, and, eventually the Presidency to his buddy Obama in 2008. He was *that* close to locking out non-leftists from the White House forever.

Much like his dad blowing 90% approval ratings under a year before his re-election, Bush destroyed anything resembling political capital by the end of 2005 and dragged the conservative brand down with him. That gave us a clown like Obama.

If I’m honest, I believe both the father and the son intentionally tanked their Presidencies ... I don’t think they ever expected Bush’s coattails to be that long in 2004 ... they had to correct that problem. I also think his father pretty much handed the election to Clinton since he was his chosen “son” to kick off his vision of the “New World Order” (few know that they knew each other well before 1992).

I get that Ross Perot may have played a role in HW Bush’s loss, but you don’t squander a 90% approval rating in under 12 months no matter who the media backed unless you are doing it intentionally ... he was hellbent on losing since he knew a D would have an easier time getting globalist nonsense passed.


129 posted on 01/24/2021 11:49:38 AM PST by edh
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