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Posted on 01/17/2021 3:49:37 AM PST by marktwain
I oppose that and believe we should always be lawful and never go around the laws and rules. So don’t do it. It’s illegal.
How to legally make your own suppressor using a Form 1 from the ATF.
That certainly is a great link.......covered it all. Thanks.
I have a problem with Form 1 however, it involves my wife.........
If I start filling out Form 1 I may drift off the Suppressor thing and start thinking about a fully automatic special treat which means $10,000 to $18,000 would be needed and my wife’s hair appointments will need to suffer and take one for the team.........she don’t like that.
I have used "suppressive fire" when I was a kid, armed with a full-A M-14 to counter ambushes. But I learned not to hose when I damn near ran out of ammo in one fight. I never repeated that mistake.
There are three kinds of fighters in combat: Killers, Fillers, and Fodder.
Killers amount to about 10% - they pick their targets and aim and have learned to do so while the enemy is firing at them.
Fillers are "noisemakers" and fire, usually full-auto and can occasionally connect with the enemy but sometimes they hit each other too. About 70-80% of the troops, unfortunately.
Fodder never learn - no talent: they're going to die no matter what you do for them. They stand on skylines, smoke during ambush duty or OPs, open gates, pick up souvenirs, don't watch where they walk. With luck, they won't take anyone with them.
So, all the militaries in the world are wrong to field belt-fed weapons at the squad level, and Chainmail is right, because of his M-14 story.
Got it. Thanks.
There is no comparison between VN-era military suppressors with “shoot through” baffles and today’s suppressors.
You might as well compare the “Wright Flyer” to an F-16.
“Suppressors are not for battle”
Yes, they are. They have been designed to be battle implements and not just for specialized use.
They reduce flash signatures, hide the location of muzzle blasts, and allow soldiers to hear each other.
Belt fed weapons work great for Final Protective Fires and for covering attacks and for ambushes. Hosing rounds is what they do, within the limits that air-cooled barrels and the existing supply of loaded belts impose.
Infantry individual weapons are for aiming, not hosing, if one wants to make it until the next firefight.
It’s just possible that I have more experience than you do.
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If we actually lived in a country where the Supreme Court could read not only the Constitution, and it's previous rulings, this would actually be a boon for 2nd Amendment.
In U.S. vs Miller, the court made the following statement:
In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense. Aymette v. State, 2 Humphreys (Tenn.) 154, 158.
The court was uninformed, (or just as likely, lied to) regarding the use of sawed-off shotguns used in combat, specifically in trench warfare during WWI. Had they been properly informed, they likely would have struck down 922(o).
Similarly, the fact that suppressors are becoming standard issue should be used to destroy that odious provision of the law.
Why this precedent hasn't been used since that time, I don't know, other than the fact that the court has heard very few actual 2nd Amendment cases over the years.
That’s exciting. I hope you get it quickly.....before.....well before things begin to get axed or outlawed.
Very cool ya got one on the way.
The noise isn’t the half of it. Suppressors dramatically limit muzzle blast, which saves wear and tear on your buddies beside you, and especially the friendlies who are a step or two downrange, and especially when you’re fighting in confined spaces. Which happens a lot these days.
It also lessens (or eliminates) muzzle flash, vitally important when you’re fighting at night, not only for your eyesight but also for not marking your position for the guys you’re shooting at. And it reduces the ‘signature,’ the kicking up of dust when you’re fighting prone. Which is important in Arabia because the sand there is so fine and so easily disturbed, and raising a cloud of dust every time you shoot also marks your position.
“ let’s do everything we can to protect these young warriors hearing...”
If preventing hearing loss is your goal then young will need hearing protection and suppression. Even suppressed guns can still damage hearing. But marines cannot wear hearing protection in a fight. So do you really mean “let’s do everything we can...”
Geez...they already have earplugs.....
This is in addition to.....seriously?
“...... will be silencing every element of an infantry battalion — from M4 rifles to .50 caliber machine guns....”
Let's begin with a bit of a physics lesson on firearms and the use of suppressors. Typically, when suppressors are used for “quiet” shooting, they are matched up with “subsonic” ammo. Firing typical (like typical military 5.56 ammo) through a suppressed rifle leaves the shot still very loud because of the “sonic boom” of the bullet passing through the air. If you want really quiet shooting you use a bolt action, or you operate the action of a semi-automatic rifle by hand. Again, actions make lots of noise.
Second suppression really destroys the stopping power of a round. You can go to YouTube and see demonstrations of .556 ammo fire with a suppressor compared to that of a 22 Long Rifle that is not suppressed.
Now let's get real serious for a moment. The .50 BMG cartridge is a huge and powerful cartridge designed to bring down airplanes, destroy lightly armored vehicles, and penetrate concrete pill boxes. A typical .50 BMG muzzle velocity is about 2,800 feet per second. That is a supersonic round.
So, something just doesn't make sense, unless the suppressor is just for training purposes or the military is planning on purchasing huge numbers of subsonic rounds.
AND, suppressors do not last THAT long! So numerous replacements will be needed as time goes on.
You are mistaken.
Suppression of supersonic rounds reduces the sound signature significantly.
Suppression does not usually reduce the velocity of a projectile (a few suppressors are designed to reduce the velocity of projectiles that are slightly above sonic velocity, but they are not very common).
There are many advantages, as discussed in the comments to this article, to using suppressors in combat.
Suppressors typically only reduce noise on average by 30-35 db. Big deal, is what I say.
There are some that are so quiet that all you hear is the action working on the weapon.
And, there are a few, “Hearing Safe,” suppressors made for the .50 BMG.
The technology has advanced a lot in the last 30 years.
Not to mention the reduction of muzzle flip -allowing quick reacquisition of the target(s).
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