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Los Angeles ambulance crews told not to transport patients who stand little chance of survival
CNN ^ | January 5, 2021 | Alexandra Meeks

Posted on 01/04/2021 10:22:42 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

With intensive care units at Southern California hospitals nearly full because of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Los Angeles County Emergency Medical Services Agency (EMS) has directed ambulance crews not to transport patients with little chance of survival to hospitals, and to conserve the use of oxygen.

Los Angeles and Southern California are dealing with one of the country's worst outbreaks of the novel coronavirus. ICU bed capacity plunged to 0% in Southern California last month, as more and more people were admitted to hospital seeking treatment for Covid-19.

Now, many medical facilities simply do not have the space to take in patients who do not have a chance of survival, according to the agency.

As of Monday evening, there were 7,544 people hospitalized in Los Angeles due to Covid-19 and just 17 available adult ICU beds, according to county health data. Due to the shortage of beds, the county EMS said patients whose hearts have stopped, despite efforts of resuscitation, should no longer be transported to hospitals.

If there are no signs of breathing or a pulse, EMS will continue to perform resuscitation for at least 20 minutes, the EMS memo said. If the patient is stabilized after the period of resuscitation, the patient would then be transported to a hospital. If the patient is declared dead at the scene or if no pulse can be restored, paramedics will no longer transport the body to the hospital.

Oxygen shortage: A shortage of oxygen in Los Angeles and the nearby San Joaquin Valley, thanks to Covid-19, is putting immense pressure on the system and forcing paramedics to conserve the supply.

In order to maintain normal circulation of the blood to organs and tissue needed for the body to function, EMS said an oxygen saturation of at least 90% will be sufficient.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: ambulance; chinavirusnews; coronavirus; covid19; ems; flubras; flubros; justacold; justtheflu; losangeles
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To: MarMema
The difference is the 20 minutes spent in the field trying to resuscitate.

That's not what the excerpt says:

If there are no signs of breathing or a pulse, EMS will continue to perform resuscitation for at least 20 minutes, the EMS memo said. If the patient is stabilized after the period of resuscitation, the patient would then be transported to a hospital. If the patient is declared dead at the scene or if [after the aforementioned 20 minutes of continued resuscitation] no pulse can be restored, paramedics will not no longer transport the body to the hospital.

I agree that the excerpt needs clarification - but your interpretation is not warranted, I feel.

Regards,

41 posted on 01/05/2021 12:22:05 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Sounds like the order Cuomo's health commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker gave back in April. He ordered that EMT's not resuscitate anyone without a pulse during the "pandemic." When the NY Post reported on the order, it was rescinded the next day.

New York scraps do-not-resuscitate order during coronavirus pandemic

42 posted on 01/05/2021 12:23:31 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: alexander_busek

I don’t care what you think. I know what I am talking about from over 40 years in the medical field. They come in on the ambulance to the ED with CPR in progress. In most places they label it as a code 3/something or just call it in as CPR in progress.
No EMS staff sit in the field and do CPR for 20 minutes.
Why would they delay transport to a more skilled setting?


43 posted on 01/05/2021 12:33:25 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Until you see the numbers of people who can no longer work having survived covid.


44 posted on 01/05/2021 12:44:54 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Truthoverpower

I still want to know where all the bodies are if in LA someone is dying ever 3 minutes. A few days back I must have read a msm oopsie. It said the the ICUs where at 100% based on staff availability.


45 posted on 01/05/2021 12:46:08 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: MarMema

“No room at the Inn” apparently...COVID-19 has it full up:

http://file.lacounty.gov/SDSInter/dhs/1100458_Directive_6revTransportofTraumaticandNontraumaticCardiacArrest.pdf


46 posted on 01/05/2021 12:46:32 AM PST by Drago
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To: Truthoverpower

Here in NC no mention of the flu this year outside of please get a shot. The flu is dead long live the ccpFLU!


47 posted on 01/05/2021 12:49:44 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: MarMema
I don’t care what you think. I know what I am talking about from over 40 years in the medical field. They come in on the ambulance to the ED with CPR in progress. In most places they label it as a code 3/something or just call it in as CPR in progress. No EMS staff sit in the field and do CPR for 20 minutes. Why would they delay transport to a more skilled setting?

I have no fight with you.

The excerpt is ambiguously worded. I am only arguing that it needs to be formulated more clearly.

Regards,

48 posted on 01/05/2021 1:04:38 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Harpotoo

The national guard has been called in to help. They had 60 refrigerated trucks on standby a few weeks ago.


49 posted on 01/05/2021 1:06:06 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Drago

Remember that covid is racist. Those Hispanic brown skins in LA are probably not helpful.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/expert-answers/coronavirus-infection-by-race/faq-20488802


50 posted on 01/05/2021 1:10:00 AM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Refrigerated/frozen shipping containers too (scroll down for a pix):

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-12/covid-19-deaths-increased-danger-coroner-office


51 posted on 01/05/2021 1:10:22 AM PST by Drago
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To: MinorityRepublican
Sure would be nice if California morons hadn’t let the illegals bankrupt the hospitals, driving many of them to close their emergency rooms.

Ah, what am I saying? When you’re having a heart attack, it’s far more important to have a warm fuzzy because you turned your country over to invaders than it is to receive treatment and survive. Silly me.

52 posted on 01/05/2021 1:18:24 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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To: Drago

Those are the most sad. Single folk sent home to quarantine found dead a few days later on their sofa.
I always remember this one.
Just dxed and only a few days into her quarantine. It must have been a blood clot. Back then it was still a new disease. Lisa Ewald, RIP.


53 posted on 01/05/2021 1:20:12 AM PST by MarMema
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To: noiseman

Or if they had gotten the vaccines out more quickly....duh.


54 posted on 01/05/2021 1:20:53 AM PST by MarMema
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To: dinodino

Just because you want something to be true doesn’t make it true. But you are correct that it is not the common cold. The common cold is real.


55 posted on 01/05/2021 1:41:56 AM PST by Glide Plane
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To: GreyHoundSailor

Apparently the flu died from COVID. /s


56 posted on 01/05/2021 1:43:45 AM PST by Glide Plane
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To: MinorityRepublican

This is Marxist euthanasia.


57 posted on 01/05/2021 1:45:05 AM PST by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. )
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To: Nifster

Six percent death rate? I think not. The death rate for COVID is 0.03%. The death rate for the flu is 0.01%. Get your facts straight and crawl out from under your bed.


58 posted on 01/05/2021 1:47:32 AM PST by Glide Plane
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To: dinodino

I’m sorry, but this virus is *not* the common cold. Pretending that it doesn’t really exist makes you, and this site, sound like crackpots.

You might read down deep into the article where the fearporn of this story falls apart...

“Due to the shortage of beds, the county EMS said patients whose hearts have stopped, despite efforts of resuscitation, should no longer be transported to hospitals.”


59 posted on 01/05/2021 1:48:55 AM PST by Flick Lives (#resist)
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To: alexander_busek

“Were dead patients previously transported to the hospital.”

I don’t know about other places, but here in Los Angeles, yes. To wit, in Sept. 2019, I came across a heroin addict on the street. Tried giving him CPR but he was long since dead. The fire dept came, put him on a gurnee and transported him to the hospital so a doctor could confirm the death.


60 posted on 01/05/2021 1:54:01 AM PST by Glide Plane
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