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Ex-GOP senator suggests forming new party, calls Trump 'ringmaster' of Republicans
The Hill ^ | January 01, 2021 | BROOKE SEIPEL

Posted on 01/01/2021 9:19:53 PM PST by NobleFree

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To: dfwgator

RINO³


61 posted on 01/01/2021 10:15:53 PM PST by Salamander (Invisigoth)
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To: a fool in paradise

If they had the sense God gave a goat, that would terrify them.


62 posted on 01/01/2021 10:16:44 PM PST by Salamander (Invisigoth)
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To: NobleFree

The GOP belongs to Trump now. The Never-Trumpers need to form their own party. They could call themselves the Rhinos!


63 posted on 01/01/2021 10:18:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far more danger from an authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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To: blueplum

Then maybe you should consider some other website as your base other than a constitutionalist site like this one.

Seems like a reasonable split to me.


64 posted on 01/01/2021 10:20:27 PM PST by Kevmo (I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: NobleFree

I met him once. Work related. Was around him for an hour or so.

Don’t know if he was sick that morning or what, but he wouldn’t have been out of place in a zombie movie.


65 posted on 01/01/2021 10:21:11 PM PST by dsc (Do not pray for easy lives; pray to be stronger men.)
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To: NobleFree
Because there is no forum, no constitutionally established venue where this matter was transparently litigated Cohen's opinion is no more or less valuable than Josh Hawley's or mine, or yours.

This matter has never been litigated much less adjudicated except in the media and therefore there is no legitimacy to any result whether proclaimed by a senator or a Freeper even if the senator or the former Secretary of Defense is endorsed by the media.

The absence of legitimacy, however, does not imply the absence of inevitability. Indeed, the issue of legitimacy, as we Americans used to understand it, is of no relevance anymore. We are contriving results based on a postmodern ideology that disregards reason and "cancels" venues in which reason was traditionally sorted out.

Where is the Supreme Court? Where is Congress? Where are the state legislatures? They are virtually all inert.

We are embarking on a new intellectual dark age, an age that is the enemy of every virtue of the Enlightenment. A political dark age is lurking just behind.


66 posted on 01/01/2021 10:22:17 PM PST by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: Salamander

You wouldn’t be able to vote their ilk out in the primary though.


67 posted on 01/01/2021 10:25:01 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: a fool in paradise

Most of us conservatives already know this, so what’s the point?


68 posted on 01/01/2021 10:35:19 PM PST by Kevmo (I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: NobleFree
Coming soon:


69 posted on 01/01/2021 10:37:55 PM PST by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I live in Maryland.

I vote in every election for spite, not actual effect.

:-\


70 posted on 01/01/2021 10:38:04 PM PST by Salamander (Invisigoth)
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To: Kevmo

They don’t need to steal an election to have their uniparty globalists in the winning office. Bush was in line if Reagan retired or perished and only won in 88 because he was inherited the ticket from his time in the previous administration. And his son was only there because he was there.


71 posted on 01/01/2021 10:39:28 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: a fool in paradise

Well, yeah.


72 posted on 01/01/2021 10:42:18 PM PST by Kevmo (I'm in a slow motion Red Dawn reality TV show. The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: NobleFree

Trump has all the right enemies.


73 posted on 01/01/2021 10:44:36 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: NobleFree
Scratch a Democrat or a RINO antiTrumper, find an ally of Communist China:

Mattis didn't disclose ties to China-boosting firm in column slamming Trump's 'America First' policy Just the News ^ | November 26, 2020 | Susan Katz Keating Posted on 11/26/2020, 9:23:36 PM by george76

In an online column denouncing President Trump's "America First" policy that includes measures regarding Beijing, ex-Defense Secretary James Mattis did not disclose his affiliation with an organization that fosters international business deals with communist China.

As coauthor with three other writers in a Nov. 23 Foreign Affairs column, Mattis did not mention that he works for the The Cohen Group consulting firm. Nor did he challenge China's tough talk against U.S. policies regarding Taiwan, nor the strict economic retaliation Beijing levied against Australia.

Instead, Mattis criticized Trump administration policies toward Beijing. Such policies, touted by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, are not in line with The Cohen Group's approach toward international business dealings with Beijing.

China is a market of enormous opportunity and complexity," the group states on its website, adding that the group's China Practice "has a solid record of success with professionals in offices in Beijing, Tianjin and Washington, DC."

The Cohen Group is run by another former Defense Secretary. William Cohen, who has been involved with China since 1978, when he went there to meet with Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping, according to the organization.

"Since then, he has been a constant presence in the U.S.-China relationship, including commercial development and security cooperation," the organization states, noting that Cohen serves on the Board of Directors of the U.S.-China Business Council.

Mattis joined The Cohen Group in 2019 as a senior counselor.

Mattis was among a group of retired four-star officers who drew criticism earlier this year for denigrating Trump in a series of articles, tweets, and other commentary.

74 posted on 01/01/2021 11:01:45 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: goodnesswins; stanne; NobleFree
Sounds like Trump's gonna win this!


75 posted on 01/01/2021 11:05:39 PM PST by 4Liberty (How does a kids car-donation nonprofit pay for so MANY radio ads if it's a charity?)
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To: NobleFree

They could call the party “Dem Lite”.


76 posted on 01/01/2021 11:20:26 PM PST by Defiant (If the Media and Social Media are going to run things, when do we get to vote for them?)
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To: piasa; Fedora

William Cohen RINO kleptocracy ping...

... Deng, who died in 1997, invigorated the Chinese economy by investing heavily in development projects, welcoming foreign investment and keeping ideologues from exerting too much sway. He is remembered for folksy expressions delivered in his thick Sichuanese accent, like his call for pragmatism: “It doesn’t matter whether it is a white cat or a black cat. As long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat.”

At the peak of his power in the 1980’s, he allowed his top underlings to explore ideas like holding democratic elections and creating an independent judiciary. He separated the party from the bureaucracy and from day-to-day economic management.

But after popular protests for democracy culminating in the mass demonstration at Tiananmen Square in 1989, Deng ordered a violent crackdown on dissent. He also purged the most liberal leaders. Serious political reform became taboo. The notion that the Communist Party could increase its popularity by easing its grip on power also fell into disfavor with the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Even after giving up all of his politicalposts, Deng kept the party focused on generating high economic growth, which he believed would mitigate demands for political change and prolong Communist rule.

That calculation proved right. Chinese Communists do not face any organized opposition today, a decade and half after their Communist allies in Eastern Europe tumbled.

Yet the price is that China has become something of a kleptocracy, with tens of millions of government and party officials using largely unchecked political powers to enrich themselves. Top leaders have called corruption a cancer that is eating away at the party’s legitimacy and posing the greatest challenge since the street protests of 1989.

Mr. Ren, the former party chief of Guangdong Province, wrote that a recent raft of corruption cases was “the tip of the iceberg.” He said the party had to focus on the ultimate goal of a “democratic political system” and submit itself to the rule of law.

“Hasn’t the central leadership repeatedly stressed governing according to law and protecting human rights?” Mr. Ren wrote, referring to official propaganda. “But if we have laws and don’t follow them, there can be no talk of the rule of law.”

-——Chinese Advocates of Reform Seek Help From Deng’s Spirit
NY Times ^ | August 21, 2004 | JOSEPH KAHN


77 posted on 01/01/2021 11:23:27 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1590715/posts

In fact, at least two senior outside advisers to Senator Clinton were attempting to get business out of the Port Deal, and President Clinton was the go-between. Associates with the Glover Park Group, which houses just about the entire shadow staff for Hillary's run-up to a Democratic presidential bid, were attempting to get a slice of the DPW deal before the deal was made public about three weeks ago. According to current and former President Clinton staff, Hillary Clinton's Senate office was aware that Glover Park was in the running to do work on the DPW deal.

"She was also very much aware of President Clinton's financial arrangements with the UAE," says a former Bill Clinton staffer. "We're talking about more than a million dollars, some of paid out soon out after they left the White House. That income helped the Clintons buy the properties that allow them to live both in New York and Washington, D.C.. This was not an insignificant financial arrangement."

What is not clear is whether or not the junior Senator from New York was aware that Clinton was acting as an agent of a foreign principal, which Clinton clearly was. According to sources with knowledge of the deal, President Clinton was advising members of the DPW buyout team in the UAE, London and Washington before the deal hit the headlines. He encouraged them to hire a number of people working in consulting firms based in Washington with whom he had both personal and financial ties: The Cohen Group, the Albright Group, and the Glover Park Group. Other sources claim that longtime Clinton confidante and golf partner Vernon Jordan's name was also suggested as potential helpful fixer in the capital.

78 posted on 01/01/2021 11:31:07 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: NobleFree

Ive never been GOPe rah rah like talk radio

I don’t care

Trumps new party suits me


79 posted on 01/01/2021 11:40:43 PM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: wardaddy

“Trumps new party suits me”
*******************************
Me too... it’s called the REPUBLICAN PARTY. Let the weak sisters, the globalists and the accommodate-the-left crew leave...it’s OUR PARTY now, not theirs. Let’s not be stupid and abandon it!


80 posted on 01/02/2021 12:05:21 AM PST by House Atreides
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