Posted on 12/29/2020 11:56:46 AM PST by artichokegrower
A coalition of environmental groups sued the Energy Department on Tuesday in an effort to block a new federal rule that would allow for faster dishwashers, arguing it could possibly lead to “higher household utility bills and more pollution.”
The rule finalized by the department in October would create a product class of dishwashers “with a cycle time for the normal cycle of one hour or less from washing through drying.”
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Those don’t look like dishes to me.
These folks are worse than a bad case of fleas.
Picked up a new Samsung at auction for $150. Normal wash cycle runs 2.5 hours. WTH?
Our dishwasher has a 7 hour cycle and they come out just as clean with the 1 hour cycle. The eco nazis have ruined our soap but adding some Trisodium Phosphate (TSP) makes a big difference.
TDS-Democrats: "Faster Dishwashers? WTF?!? That's the FINAL STRAW! Concede! ... CONCEDE! ... CONCEDE! ... AAAAAAARGH!!! ..."
Whenever possible, I turn off the dishwasher at the start of the 40-minute drying cycle, open the door and slide the racks all the way out so the dishes can air dry. They are so hot from the wash cycle that it only takes a few minutes for most items.
That has happened on Cape Cod, MA. The reason wasn't a green initiative. Instead, they found out that the existing piping was undersized for the pressure they needed to run it out, and the stopgap (over years) is to halt new nat-gas attachments. So, some new construction uses propane with the assumption that they'll be able to switch over to piped gas sometime soon, and others use oil.
My modern dishwasher takes nearly 2 1/2 hours to wash one load of dishes. My old Maytag used to do the same sized load in 40-ish minutes.
The new one is quiet, but it takes forever, especially when I am washing jars and lids for canning. Then there are the cleanup after the processing loads.
Can’t recall where I heard/read it, but environmental groups have standing on any case or controversy if it involves harm to Gia. Real or imaginary harm — like dishwashers.
He's got some really neat videos on tech stuff.
You have to be careful to get REAL trisodium phosphate. What is marketed today as “TSP” has no phosphates!
All I wanted from a new dishwasher was for it to run quietly. We bought our current, 10 yr old washer, from Sears and I got my wish. Still runs perfectly, no noise. It has various environmental buttons but there is NORMAL button that gets directly to the job at hand and the time is about an hour. I also double the small, plastic, detergent packets and always use hottest setting. That keeps our drain open. No trouble thus far. I hope it lives forever.
There are so many things govt does that force increased energy use. Whenever Policy tries to trump Thermodynamics! The new fangled sensor lights are a great example. The sensor trips, and the light changes, but the car that trips the sensor still has to come to a complete stop. Meanwhile, the timing function of the light is now interrupted, so the car on the cross street, which would have been able to go thru the light without slowing down, will now have to stop as well. Mathematically, the average amount of time a car is stopped has decreased, but the number of cars that MUST stop has increased by 50%, therefore you are wasting energy both stopping and starting from the out of sync lights. SCIENCE!!!
Human + Sink + Soap + Sponge = Dishwashers
Bingo most dishwashers end up being ant farms anyway.
A prime example of people who take things that don’t need fixing and breaking them to be their view of ‘better.’
2.5 hours?
I discovered the same thing with the new dishwasher when we bought one a few years ago. I thought I had done something wrong, pushed the wrong button. Surely, a dishwasher does not take over 2 hours to do one load; but, it does now. Same with clothes washers, more time needed for a single load.
Maybe I wouldn't mind so much if I was getting a savings in fewer dollars spent on my electric bill; but, it doesn't show up. They may say "energy efficient"; but, running a dishwaser/clothes washer more than twice as long as the non-energy efficient machines, seems to use the same amount of energy.
Don't even get me started with how long it takes to get a pot of water to boil in order to cook my pasta. ARRRGGGGHHH!
The only time I have ever experienced a lower energy bill was when we got aluminum siding and new windows on our house. Unfortunately, the energy company raised the rates soon after we did that and I was back to paying the old amount. But, I did see that savings in the bill initially after we finished doing the siding and windows. But, the different "energy efficient" machines seem to be just a scam.
Had one for ten years - still going strong.
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