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To: cpdiii; mbj

“1. 60% thermal loss at generation plant/
2. 8% loss in transmission lines/
3. 1% loss charging the battery/
4. 7% loss from the electric motors in the car/

Total loss is 76%. (thus 24% makes it to your wheels)”

I only use your numbers for clarity in showing your glaring errors.

If you start with 100% then after 60% loss in generation you have 40% remaining.

If you lose 8% of that 40% in transmission you have 36.8%.

If you lose 1% in charging you have 36.8 x .99 = 36.4% remaining.

If you lose 7% in the motors that is 36.4 x .93 = 33.8% remaining.

33.8%, not 24%.


135 posted on 12/22/2020 6:16:32 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

But the costs related to infrastructure do not seem to be negligible: changes required to support the sheer proposed volume of vehicles on the grid; the electricity generation capacity too.

So, while it would seem like your calculations point to similar efficiency characteristics (maybe), yet the infrastructure, the flexibility & better range of the internal combustion engine vehicles and also the safety characteristics (for example, Lithium batteries seem to have a combustion problem using current approaches; more so than gasoline tanks) still seem to be heavily in favor of the status quo.

Side issue: once there’s a maintenance issue with the EV batteries, it’s EXTREMELY expensive to fix. EVs cost more than the ICE.


173 posted on 12/23/2020 8:52:04 AM PST by mbj
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