The Ramsland analysis of Antrim County Dominion Voting Systems nothing more than “a series of unsupported conclusions”

Conservative Dispatch ^ | 12/15/2020

[SeekAndFind]

Did Dominion Systems defraud voters in Antrim County, Michigan — and by extension the entire nation? A court ordered the release of an outside analysis of the election operation yesterday, and its conclusions have Donald Trump and his supporters claiming to have the smoking gun that should overturn the election. Dominion’s system has intentional design errors “to create systemic fraud and influence election results,” declares Russell Ramsland.

Not so fast, say Michigan election officials and Dominion:

State officials are disputing a report on Antrim County’s voting equipment — signed by a consultant who confused Michigan and Minnesota voting districts in an earlier election analysis — that says the county’s equipment “is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.”

Michigan Elections Director Jonathan Brater said in a weekend court filing the report “makes a series of unsupported conclusions, ascribes motives of fraud and obfuscation to processes that are easily explained as routine election procedures or error corrections, and suggests without explanation that elements of election software not used in Michigan are somehow responsible for tabulation or reporting errors that are either nonexistent or easily explained.”

And Dominion Voting Systems, the company whose equipment is used in Antrim, issued a statement saying it is the subject of a “continuing malicious and widespread disinformation campaign” intended to undermine confidence in the Nov. 3 election.

Contrary to the impression some have, this report is not an independent analysis. Ramsland has been working on Team Trump’s legal challenges for some time. This appears to be a more formal version of the affidavits that Ramsland and attorneys have been submitting all along. And, as the Detroit Free Press points out, Ramsland’s efforts have not been entirely credible — especially in Michigan. His first attempt to prove Dominion was corrupt in Michigan analyzed the results in nearly two dozen towns and cities, but it turned out that all of them were in Minnesota, not Michigan.

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Despite this error, Ramsland and Team Trump allowed that affidavit to continue uncorrected for at least a week. Before it got corrected, Sidney Powell was still basing her claims in several states in part on Ramsland’s erroneous initial affidavit. That matters when it comes to weighing credibility in court, as John Hinderaker explained at the time that he uncovered the errors:

Evidently a researcher, either Mr. Ramsland or someone working for him, was working with a database and confused “MI” for Minnesota with “MI” for Michigan. (The postal code for Minnesota is MN, while Michigan is MI, so one can see how this might happen.) So the affidavit, which addresses “anomalies and red flags” in Michigan, is based largely, and mistakenly, on data from Minnesota.

This is a catastrophic error, the kind of thing that causes a legal position to crash and burn. Trump’s lawyers are fighting an uphill battle, to put it mildly, and confusing Michigan with Minnesota will at best make the hill steeper. Credibility once lost is hard to regain. Possibly Trump’s lawyers have already discovered this appalling error, and have undertaken to correct it. But the Ramsland Affidavit was filed in Georgia just yesterday.

More to the point, Ramsland’s claims had been heard already in challenges to the election in Michigan. They didn’t convince courts at that time, nor does it appear that the court is yet convinced now. This challenge actually relates to a down-ballot county election, not the presidential election itself, although it’s clearly intended as a political argument for the latter. Don’t forget, too, that the Department of Homeland Security has specifically rejected Ramsland’s theory about Dominion.

As with all affidavits, the test is how the claims fare in court. To put it mildly, they have not produced a track record of success. Dominion and the state of Georgia point — with good reason — to the hand recounts performed in that state as affirmative rebuttals to Ramsland’s claims. As has been explained ad nauseam, the Dominion systems produce a paper ballot that voters check before submitting them to the precinct. If Ramsland’s analysis were correct, either the hand recount would have shown a massive shift in the results, or hundreds of thousands of voters would have testified as to getting an incorrect ballot from the machine. Neither happened; the recounts have all corroborated the original election results. In Michigan, election officials testified to the incorrect assumptions and hearsay qualities of this and other affidavits in support of Trump’s desire to throw out the results. In all cases, courts have dismissed the cases as unsupported by actual evidence.

Dominion should make their rebuttal public too, if for no other reason than to help people balance the two claims, just as courts have. That would certainly be helpful to people who keep hearing claims like Ramsland’s but aren’t clear on what the responses have been. They should be clear, however, about Ramsland’s track record and the track record in courts on these claims.

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[MtnClimber]

Did they have to say this to avoid a lawsuit?

[MattMusson]

I think this is a smoke screen article from a suspect ‘conservative’ site.

[SeekAndFind]

If you are really Honest ( as your screen name tells us ), could you please dispense with one sentence comments and directly tell us where the article is wrong and inaccurate?

[Hostage]

Michigan Elections Director Jonathan Brater vs, Russell Ramsland

Brater knocked to the floor in 1st minute of round One.

Ramsland has a gentleman’s voice with an ability to talk at both the highest scientific level and to the ordinary folks in a supermarket checkout line. He will have any judge and jury see this was blatant fraud, no question.

Russel Ramsland, Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG), long venerable history in cybersecurity and operations.

[amnestynone]

Has anyone ever heard of this site? It looks phony tome.

[kiryandil]

They didn’t convince courts at that time, nor does it appear that the court is yet convinced now.

Democrat judges are unconvinced by clear evidence of Democrat vote fraud.

Don’t forget, too, that the Department of Homeland Security has specifically rejected Ramsland’s theory about Dominion.

Is that the same Department of Homeland Security that didn't notice that we were under cyberattack for six months?   

     

     

[kiryandil]

You're actually defending this hogslop?  

[TigerLikesRoosterNew]

This is an article from “Hot Air”. other article at this site is also from “Hot Air”. Seems this site is just repackaging their articles to give an impression that they are from a conservative site.

[kiryandil]

It’s clickbait garbage, and I’ve never heard of it before, either.

[DJ MacWoW]

Has anyone ever heard of this site? It looks phony to me.

I did some cursory searches and couldn't find anything. Their site has no "About Us" page either.

[Steve Van Doorn]

said, "confused Michigan and Minnesota"
Lets pick the first name on the list Benville TWP 350%
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Belleville,+MI+48111/@42.2019879,-83.5031741,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x883b5095d7624ccf:0xb4a6f19a2c45da86!8m2!3d42.2047619!4d-83.4852133

Article proven false. Fake news

[MikeyB806]

I hate to agree, but it would be stupid to try and manipulate electronic vote tallies knowing that hand recounts might be conducted. That said, if I went to a machine and no one showed me the ballot, I would just assume that the touch screen was the vote, and I wouldn’t think anything of it.

Of course the hand counts could have been rigged. But I think the fraud came from mail-in ballots, duplicates and harvesting and bribes for votes from people who wouldn’t have voted otherwise.

[FreedomPoster]

That last is a big red flag.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Russel Ramsland, Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG), long venerable history in cybersecurity and operations.

Really? Do they? I was skeptical and started doing some research on ASOG.

https://www.corporationwiki.com/p/32f1ln/allied-special-operations-group-llc

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3917097/posts?page=34#34

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Here's more on Russell Ramsland's connections and principlals of ASOG.

[Hostage]

Ramsland’s history, not ADOG’s. Ramsland founded ASOG with others relatively recently.

[jstolzen]

The consultant DID confuse MI and MN counties.

He also..

- Thought 1/250,000 is .0008% (it’s not, it’s .0004%). Doesn’t help when that blatant of a mistake is in your first paragraph.

- Did indeed list MN counties in a previous report, claiming they were MI counties.

- Had wrong “over-vote” totals in his MN list (sometimes by a factor of 10X+).

- On his “corrected” list of counties, listed the same county or city multiple times in the same list..sometimes right on top of each other (eg: Shelby Township, followed on the very next line by..Shelby Township).

That’s just a sample. But when you make basic, rudimentary errors like this, you give the other side plenty of ammo to discredit things - whether the rest of the data is right or not.