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To: glimmerman70

Good question. Not many options open. Maybe one of the court cases WON’T get thrown out. Or, maybe the 12/18 DNI report will result in implementation of EO #13848. Or maybe the Congressional remedy for a disputed election will be enacted. Next-to-last resort would be some form of limited martial law. The very last resort is the one to be feared the most: Americans fighting against Americans.

IMHO, no one knows what will happen. There are two schools of thought on FR. Each believes it is right, and that the other group is wrong. Although there are similarities between the current situation and other contested presidential elections in the past, the survival or death of the Republic itself wasn’t an issue then.


55 posted on 12/15/2020 7:02:48 AM PST by AFB-XYZ (Option 1 -- stand up. Option 2 -- bend over.)
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To: AFB-XYZ

More than two schools of thought I bet... a lot of people are staying silent given the fraught sentiments on display.

My expectation is that the “President Trump + MAGA Party or Tea Party v2. 0” faction will split in two.

One group will accept nothing less than instalment of President Trump for a second term. The longer this is frustrated, the bigger their list of Deep State Enablers (who’ll be either directly held responsible for the Steal, or deemed guilty by association) due for a Reckoning. The longer it goes without President Trump confirmed for a second term, the bigger the list of actors they’ll be gunning for.

The other group holds the same belief but recognizes that the future - perhaps a new party, discussing President Trump’s successor and team - is just as important if not more important.

There’s no point reinstalling President Trump in a system that is so overwhelmingly convinced that he didn’t “win” the popular vote, or win on a legal technicality, or win by Electoral College. It isn’t enough to put him back in the White House on Inauguration Day AND keep him in there AND give him four years to fix anything. Without additional action he’ll be hamstrung.

This raises a serious question about how to convert the moral victory of reinstatement into a successful second term.

The first group is quite happy to see Trump installed but could care less what happens after inauguration so long as the end result neutralises the Deep State. This begs the question, what would an effective and systematic demolition of the Deep State look like in practical terms? How can it be done? Who will do it?

To the second group, and I’m happy to say I’m in it, alarm bells are ringing because it is so difficult to see how the first group can get what it wants without a borderline Stalinist approach. After all, to kill off the Deep State surely you need to disempower all dissenting voices especially judges, lawyers, politicians, civil servants, critical voices in the MSM, pinko celebrities and lobby groups. In all states. And follow the money, and confiscate it. And outlaw dissident leftist groups. Shop Thy Neighbor.

That implies: massive expansion of Federal powers over States powers; suspensions of Habeas Corpus, the right to assembly, and Due Process; the end of Free Speech for liberals.

Stalin would’ve approved.

Sportsman’s bet: in one months time those folks in the first camp will be expecting the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the FBI, NSA and whoever else to back Trump and they will all be VERY sorely disappointed.

Becayse every single one of those institutions will take one long look at what action would be needed not just to put Trump back in the Oval Office, but keep him there.

Morally, Donald Trump may deserve a second term. But is tgat more important than the oath to secure FREEDOM? Is it okay to tear up several hardwired inalienable rights in order to give conservatives the President they want?

I have no idea what will happen if the entire military establishment accept Biden as their new CIC without a shot being fired. One group will be totally unsurprised because they love the Constitution too much to elevate even their chosen man above it, the other has to ask itself how far it is prepared to tear up the Constitution to get the leader it wants.

Guys in the first group: reality check. If Biden is Inaugurated with military support, you will have to choose between reinstating Trump by paramilitary means, and retaining a semblance of a Free Republic.

There will be no third option. And if Trump has even a tenth of the integrity you say he has, he will not cooperate with a coup that will tear up far more of the Written Constitution than the Deep State has tinkered with the unwritten parts.


92 posted on 12/15/2020 1:08:03 PM PST by MalPearce
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