Posted on 12/10/2020 8:44:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Interfering in our civil rights is minor compared to what they have planned.
They consider the very land in the U.S. to be rightfully theirs. That's right. The land that makes up the United States of America is not ours, it belongs to the Chinese. Read this speech given by China's former Minister of Defense Chi Haotian to high-level Communist Party Cadres sometime before his retirement in 2003.
The whole thing is very enlightening to the way they think. If you don't want to read the whole thing, search for the term "colonization" and read that, and the following paragraph.
Wait? They aren’t from Bangalore? How did they miss a punjabi H1B visa application?
What you call censoring is YouTube choosing what content they want on the platform they developed with their own money and continue to support.
I absolutely support private property rights and resist your impulse to have government seize YouTube for the public good.
And eliminating their discretion over what goes on their platform is absolutely confiscation.
What I don't understand is why you ascribe so much power to YouTube.
There are thousands of sites out there capable of hosting videos, including some widely used ones like Rumble.
The fact that you don't demand that conservative sites carry leftist content makes me think your goal isn't free speech, which isn't being threatened, it's punishing a company that doesn't share your ideology. I'm all for that provided you don't use the power of government to do it.
So let's just side step your usual argument "private companies have a right to censor blah blah blah" and focus on the "Should Chinese spies control American communications?
Yes, and I must say it's one of the most ridiculous, paranoid ones I've seen yet.
Many years ago I briefly worked for a major defense contractor involved with nuclear-capable missile development.
I had absolutely nothing to do with the missile technology side of the company but National Pulse would say I have "ties" to the US government.
I mean, seriously. Did you read the article?
Poor Xifei Huang worked for Beijing University for 3 months 10 years ago which means he's a threat to your free speech because he's forcing YouTube to censor content for the CCP?
If there was an award for most tenuous connection to the Chinese government this one would be a top contender.
Well this would explain the censorship, all I can say is Trump to the rescue, the sooner the better.
No.
Is the right way to prevent that to have the federal government control American communications instead?
No.
But the point remains valid. How do we know a mass communications company like Youtube is censoring for "private" reasons and not because the Chinese government is putting pressure on them to censor?
You are dodging my main point. How do you stop foreign governments (or domestic governments) from forcing a company to censor?
How do you do that?
What is the right way to prevent it?
“... a reminder of what happens to our country when people look the other way to fraud and subversion of our Constitution. It only gets worse.”
American society will do anything to keep their COSCO related stuff...
Lawfare thuggery was also used by then Arkansas AG Bill Clinton, who had been financially backed, and was working closely with CCP front buddies (as he had with kgb drug and laundering operations), to force Sam Walton to do business, or get wrecked, in the early 1980’s. So Walmart and Sam’s Club were impacted, and part of the larger model as well.
Truth is, the entire Clinton presidency was in part a Chinese op.
I consistently bagged on Xi and the Chicoms in the comment sections on YouTube and have been banned. If I am reinstated, I will continue to bag on Xi and the Chicoms.
You’re missing the point...
Why would we ever empower “private” companies to censor public opinion ?
Ignoring that they’re easily corruptible... and that governments have competing interests in censorship... isn’t useful in distracting from the issue: censorship is bad.
“Private” censorship... is basically impossible. What they try to prevent you from saying in private... rather than on the public forums they operate... obviously has no impact... and there would be no point or benefit available for them in suppressing “private” speech ?
What the tech companies claims amount to... is that by clicking to agree with their bullshit TOS, you’ve opted out of the rights you have a “member of the public”.
His position is that they have a right to censor anything they want because they are a "private" company. My position is that since public participation is required for their platform to function, they are a defacto public commons and should have the law of the commons enforced upon them.
That law is "freedom of speech."
Agree. They shouldn’t be allowed to do that.
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For some...be prepared to walk away from the internet..the same way you have walked away from Cable TV ..Fox News...cell phones.
At some point you must realize they can only control through those channels.
It’s like if you go off grid.. suddenly you realize you don’t actually need the grid...or most of “civilization”
You mean that mid-level software engineer who worked for Beijing University for 3 months 10 years ago is forcing YouTube to censor this?
You give the CCP even more credit than you do Google.
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