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To: ifinnegan
Yes but Not Stonewall Jackson. He fought for the exact opposite.

The North was not fighting to free slaves, they were fighting to make slaves of the Southern states. The South wasn't fighting to keep slaves, they already had the legal right to keep slaves under USA law. The South was fighting for independence from the Washington Deep State corruptocracy that we are all fighting against now.

15 posted on 12/07/2020 4:38:06 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Sorry but your comment is not serious and laughable.


17 posted on 12/07/2020 4:40:38 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Amen.


30 posted on 12/07/2020 5:05:15 PM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: DiogenesLamp

This is exactly right

Slavery wasn’t abolished in 1861
The Union was


36 posted on 12/07/2020 5:10:15 PM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz (0 )
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To: DiogenesLamp

Oh....PLEASE


46 posted on 12/07/2020 5:22:49 PM PST by terycarl
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To: DiogenesLamp
Northern states were exercising their states' rights by refusing to track down and return escaped slaves.

The southern states wanted the national government in D.C. to step in and prevent the northern states from exercising their states' rights in that manner.

That effort failed, so the southern states seceded and formed their own central government, under whose constitution no state was permitted to make its own laws regarding slavery.

So the war -was- about states' rights. The north was the states' rights side.

47 posted on 12/07/2020 5:23:12 PM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (Am I the last living deficit hawk?)
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To: DiogenesLamp

No slavery had NOTHING to do with the civil war...except..
S Carolina article of secession...bitchin about the right to own slaves being threatned:

These ends it endeavored to accomplish by a Federal Government, in which each State was recognized as an equal, and had separate control over its own institutions. The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.

We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.


48 posted on 12/07/2020 5:28:53 PM PST by FreshPrince
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