Posted on 12/06/2020 6:10:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind
President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani said Sunday that the legislatures in Arizona, Georgia, and Michigan might end up deciding what electors are sent to the Electoral College, suggesting it could end up in the U.S. Supreme Court.
Giuliani said that the GOP-controlled legislatures in the three states could vote on sending their own slate of electors, noting that such a move is supported in the U.S. Constitution. Both Giuliani and fellow Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis have lobbied state legislatures in recent days to reaffirm their power to choose their own electors due to evidence of fraud during the Nov. 3 election.
The former New York mayor told Fox Business on Sunday that Georgia lawmakers “started a petition to hold their own session, which they’re allowed to do under the Constitution,” adding the GOP members are “disgusted” by the evidence that was shown during a hearing last week.
On the program, Giuliani made reference to the State Farm Arena surveillance video in Atlanta that showed election officials pulling black containers on wheels from underneath a table after poll observers and election workers were sent home. While state elections officials have said the process was not unusual, they have not yet answered key questions raised by Trump’s team when presenting the video.
“They’re the first legislature to do this now,” he said of Georgia. “This is a constitutional role that the founding fathers gave to our legislatures. They’re the ones who are supposed to select the president, not the governors, not the board of elections. They’re the ones who have the constitutional obligation to decide on the electors.”
“Michigan is considering the same thing,” Giuliani said. “They’re not quite as far along, but they are drafting something right now, and so is Arizona, so those three … could very well end up in front of the legislature to decide who the electors are.”
In the interview, Giuliani said that should even one “of these state legislatures change the electors based on their own analysis, of course that’ll be taken to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court will have to decide if it was done reasonably, rationally, or arbitrarily—that’s the standard.”
“In each case, each one of these legislatures has more than enough of that to sustain the Supreme Court challenge,” Giuliani added.
Pennsylvania state lawmakers last week sent a letter to the Pennsylvania Congress members to object to the state’s Electoral College vote during the Joint Session of Congress on Jan. 6, 2021, claiming that the state legislature does not have the power to choose electors in Pennsylvania.
Permitted and predestined are two different things.....
God’s sovereign will is what comes to pass. Is He so powerless that He for example gets forced to let people die, etc.?
“ Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.”.
Not a sparrow falls outside of His will. He is not somehow constrained by our evil. See how He allowed Joseph for example to be so badly and unfairly treated? See also the entire book of Job! Throughout scripture really.
Yet we also know that
Romans 8:28
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.“
See. All things are NOT good. But all things eventually and somehow work together for good for those of us who are called.
Where does that leave us? We aren’t sovereign. We do his REVEALED will. He tells us how we are to behave. We are to faithfully do His will as He tells us in His Word. And trust Him to run the world.
I just have one question.... if Biden is sworn in as president in January will you believe it was predestined as God’s will and accept it and walk in peace about it?
It’s possible, and probably should if the whole thing isn’t rigged. But, it is, so I will be surprised if something happens short of the Supreme Court. Justice Alito is clearly pissed about the situation in Wisconsin and the current filing is really directed to him. Apparently he had a previous issue with Wisconsin courts in a separate matter, so he might be inclined to weigh in.
It is a paradox of the same kind as the Trinity: One God in Three Persons. Our inability to understand it does not negate it, because the Trinity--and Predestination and Free Will-- are plainly and frequently asserted in Scripture. Once we reach heaven, then we will understand.
So, yes, if Slow Joe is inaugurated, it will be (a) because America's flawed political process yielded him, and (b) because God decided he should be inaugurated, for His own reasons and purposes.
That all depends. God being all-powerful, I guess one would have to say BiteOne being sworn in was His will, even if we don’t at that time understand the reasons why.
It could be that if God allows BiteOne to be installed and America to fall, it will be because it’s time for the Rapture, the Tribulation (including the rise of the Antichrist), all the judgments therein, and then Armageddon.
That being said, I believe (for what it’s worth, anyway) that that time isn’t yet. In other words, that even if Pres. Trump is the final President, he’s going to be in office for one more term. Two, if there’s a successful movement to repeal the 22nd Amendment.
I hope this all made sense. Always have these brilliant, witty, concise orations in my head, but when I start writing them down, they go on and on and on. Sorry about that; it’s not intentional. :-)
I know, I don’t think they are reliable Trump votes. If they were they would be raising holy hell by now.
I will accept it if it is a fact that he is inaugurated. I will assume we have been entirely cheated. I will oppose the injustice and do what I can to make things right. I had my purse stolen, once. I accepted it; but that doesn’t mean I thought it was a good thing.
I mean I acknowledge reality. Horrible things are happening constantly in this world.
As for being at peace it depends on what you mean. It’s not ok with me that mankind is evil. But tearing myself up about it constantly does not improve it. Better to trust the Lord and work faithfully for good. That is His will for me. I’m not going to sit on the sidewalk and scream like that famous lunatic.
One of those Republicans is Liz Cheney, she will never vote for Trump.
Your first paragraph nailed it, and the rest merely suggests some of the scenarios which might ensue. God, of course, does not bother personally with or have any need for scenarios, “being all-powerful” and always simply accomplishing His will.
“....where each state legislature gets one vote.. ..”
House delegation gets one vote !
The poll themselves internally and whoever that majority says gives said delegation one vote.
In the Senate its a majority of the whole Senate that picks the VP. This is potentially a problem.
“The movement for Trump will go far beyond the state legislatures in Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania but will also include Electors in alleged Biden states switching their votes for Trump.”
I’ll have some of what you’re smoking
What positive news! Sounds a bit more hopeful.
Question, if the legislatures change the electors, are the electors still bound to the certified vote?
Daniel 4:17 - "In order that the living may know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, [He] gives it to whomever He will, and sets over it the lowest of men.’
Of the two, Biden is the lowest.
No !
They’ll vote as instructed by the legislature.
LOL!
Unless I have it wrong, it would not be up to Congress other than tabulate each State's one vote. Since the Legislatures are a majority in the 50 States, if they hold fast, Trump would win.
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