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China’s secret plan to topple the US as the world’s superpower (Old but relevant in light of Sidney Powell's allegation of Chinese involvement)
New York Post ^ | Feb 8, 2015 | Larry Getlen

Posted on 12/06/2020 7:24:44 AM PST by fso301

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Given Sidney Powell's allegations of Chinese involvement in 2020 Presidential election fraud, I think it is worth reviewing the well established but little known fact outside of Freerepublic that China has for decades been in search of a means to suddenly supplant the United States.
1 posted on 12/06/2020 7:24:44 AM PST by fso301
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Trump needs to cripple China permanently


2 posted on 12/06/2020 7:27:52 AM PST by ronnie raygun ( Massive mistakes are made by arrogant fools; massive evils are committed by evil people.")
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Sidney Powell is in possession ( IMHO ) of information that is so broad and damning that it will rock the world.

Let’s just hope it all comes out sooner rather than later.


3 posted on 12/06/2020 7:28:21 AM PST by BrexitBen
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Their best hopes are with BIDET 0......
They will be deceived with TRUMP’s victory and MAGA people’s victory


4 posted on 12/06/2020 7:31:06 AM PST by Ulysse
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To: BrexitBen
Sidney Powell is in possession ( IMHO ) of information that is so broad and damning that it will rock the world.

At least on a Pearl Harbor and 9/11 level.

Let’s just hope it all comes out sooner rather than later.

And that the nation unites at least to the degree it was on Dec 8 and 9/12.

5 posted on 12/06/2020 7:32:03 AM PST by fso301
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One only examine California to understand how China means to control America. The Chinese own a huge portion of California’s sovereign debt. They control the management of big tech, finance the Democrat party, have financial entanglements in Hollywood that result in content control, have all but seized Tesla, have access to whatever patents, isights or techniques Tesla and Space X have developed,have infiltrated Academia, dictate California agrigultural policies by nature of the amounts they do or don’t import, control the MSM. overtly own the LA Times etc.


6 posted on 12/06/2020 7:33:25 AM PST by allendale
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To: ronnie raygun
Trump needs to cripple China permanentlyTo do so he will need to survive this and reunite the nation
7 posted on 12/06/2020 7:33:39 AM PST by fso301
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To: allendale
One only examine California to understand how China means to control America.

Interestingly enough, Japan did similar everywhere it targeted around the Pacific rim.

8 posted on 12/06/2020 7:36:07 AM PST by fso301
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To: allendale

As a wise fellow once said on CNBC:

China has central planning by engineers, scientists, and mathematicians, and the US has central planning by lawyers.
Neither one is good, but by definition, they win.


9 posted on 12/06/2020 7:36:45 AM PST by nascarnation
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Here are 23 questions the press needs to ask Biden but almost certainly won’t:

1. Does Biden still believe, as he remarked during a 2011 speech, that “a rising China is a positive development, not only for China but for America and the world writ large”?
2. Does Biden regret his support for granting permanent normal trade relations to China, setting it up for accession to the World Trade Organization that would supercharge its drive toward superpower status?
3. Does Biden believe the Obama administration’s responses, or lack thereof, to China’s rampant theft of intellectual property, militarization of the South China Sea, catastrophic hack of the Office of Personnel Management, and liquidation of Central Intelligence Agency assets were sufficient, and successfully checked China’s ambitions? If not, what would he have done differently? Did he propose such alternatives as vice president?
4. Does Biden disavow the Obama administration’s signing of a 2013 memorandum of understanding — following intense lobbying of the former vice president by Chinese leaders — granting Chinese companies continued access to U.S. capital markets, in spite of their unique noncompliance in skirting basic auditing and reporting requirements, resulting in numerous frauds?
5. Does the former vice president think it appropriate for former Obama administration national security officials to lobby on behalf of Huawei, the CCP-tied, national security-threatening, alleged U.S.-lawbreaking linchpin of China’s plan for control over global communications?
6. Will Biden disclose any and all funding directly or indirectly emanating from Chinese sources for the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement?
7. Would a President-Elect Biden take a congratulatory call from Taiwan’s president, and express ambiguity regarding the “One China” policy prior to dealing with the CCP?
8. Would a Biden administration explicitly recognize the ruling CCP as a “Marxist-Leninist Party,” “hostile to the United States,” that harbors hegemonic ambitions?
9. More fundamentally, would a Biden administration recognize that China poses the greatest threat of all to America?
10. Would every member of a Biden Cabinet adopt policies geared toward countering China, or ceasing cooperation with it?
11. Would a President Biden continue the Trump administration’s military buildup aimed at countering China’s aggression?
12. Specifically, would a President Biden prioritize significant funding of missile defense and the Space Force in his budgets?
13. Would a President Biden continue to vacate the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty?
14. Would a President Biden continue accelerating naval activities throughout the Indo-Pacific?
15. Would a President Biden explicitly encourage U.S. companies to move their supply chains out of China?
16. Would a President Biden impose tariffs as a means of creating leverage over China in a bid to achieve free, fair, and reciprocal trade?
17. Would a President Biden use every possible measure to counter China’s efforts to monopolize strategically significant fields, such as 5G telecommunications?
18. Would a President Biden maintain the substantially increased powers of the executive branch over conducting Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States reviews of transactions that might represent national security threats, and use it to scuttle relevant deals?
19. Would a Biden administration sanction Chinese entities doing business with sanctioned Iranian entities?
20. Would a Biden Department of Justice maintain the Trump administration’s China Initiative, aimed at preventing and prosecuting Chinese espionage and hacking efforts?
21. Would a Biden administration engage in a comprehensive strategic communications effort aimed at the CCP, including resolutely challenging its propaganda, delivering Mandarin pro-democracy and anti-CCP messages, and highlighting tyrannical CCP actions?
22. Would a Biden administration maintain restrictions on visas for Chinese students and scholars in strategically significant disciplines, and investigate and expose potentially corrupting Chinese funding of American higher ed institutions?
23. Would a President Biden order that the savings of U.S. government employees not be invested in funds with weightings toward Chinese companies antithetical to America’s interests?

The biggest question of all: “What are Biden’s plans to giveaway a gazillion China deals to his ne’er do well crackhead son Hunter,
and the rest of the opportunistic greedy Biden family lying in wait to get in on the billions?


10 posted on 12/06/2020 7:37:34 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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Then-VP Biden toasts China's XI. "Here’s why I’m toasting this Chink. My view for many years is that a rising China is a positive development, and that the Biden family can become billionaires as long as we Democrats force American taxpayers to invest in Beijing’s success. Some anti-globalists see China’s growth as a threat, entertaining visions of a cold-war-style rivalry or great-power confrontation. Other Chinks worry that our aim in the Asia-Pacific is to contain China’s rise,” Biden wrote. “I reject these views. “I remain convinced that a successful China can make our country more prosperous, not less,” he added.

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(h/t Greenfield)

Yet, underneath all the Biden sucking-up rhetoric about the ennobling virtues of globalism was some very parochial and familial profiteering. In 2013, Joe and his son Hunter Biden flew on Air Force Two to China. China’s BHR Partners was founded that year and included Hunter Biden as a board member. The Delaware Board of Trade was incorporated in 2013. Despite its name, the DBOT was not a government agency, but a penny stock startup which received a $3 million loan from New Castle County.

After Joe's wet kiss to XI, the big Chinese partner in the BHR arrangement was Harvest Fund Management which, coincidentally enough, in 2012 was targeting Hollywood with an $800 million investment fund. That same year, you could find Bruno Wu, who had been working with Harvest, and Chris Dodd, along with Harvey Weinstein, playing roles at the Asian Film Summit in Toronto.

And the money didn’t just go one way. The Delaware Board of Trade was incorporated in 2013.

Despite its name, the DBOT was not a government agency, but a penny stock startup which received a $3 million loan from New Castle County. (Delaware is Joe Biden’s home state which he repped as a US Senator.)

New Castle County had approved the issue of $15 million in revenue bonds to fund the DBOT “stock exchange” by touting the “globally recognized leaders in the financial services industry” running it. DBOT’s founders included people with experience in stock exchanges and financial services, and Dennis Toner, who was described as a “top aide to Vice President Joe Biden.”

Toner, Biden’s deputy chief of staff, is in the news for denying that Tara Reade ever told him anything. Reade’s decision to tell Toner and Ted Kaufman was a pretty poor one. Both are longtime Biden men and considered as close to the boss as family. And they’ve reaped the benefits of that closeness.

After Obama won, Ted Kaufman was temporarily appointed to the Senate. If there was anything odd about appointing a Biden advisor to sit in the Senate, it became odder when Senator Kaufman delivered the opening statement in favor of Toner’s appointment as Post Office Governor, by vouching for his “loyalty” working for Joe Biden. Tara Reade might as well have taken her complaint to Biden, as to Toner and Kaufman. The current New Castle County exec has since called DBOT’s founders criminals and threatened to sue after the company was disposed of as a “distressed asset” in exchange for shares of Ideanomics. Ideanomics is a Chinese crypto company trading as a penny stock and the software that served as collateral for the loan has been described as worthless. The chairman of Ideanomics is Wu.

The manager of DBOT-I LLC was listed as John Hynansky. The car dealer is a Biden pal with extensive Ukrainian ties who had lent Biden’s shady brother half a million dollars and had received $20 million in government loans to start a Porsche luxury car dealership in the Ukraine. Biden’s vaunted foreign policy expertise has consisted of sucking up to broker deals between Biden family members, donors, and foreign interests. These deals haven’t been good for America, but they’ve worked out very well for members of Biden's crooked family, as well as assorted donors, camp followers, and the local boys.

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But Biden's biggest deal was helping broker the Chinese takeover of the American entertainment industry. Xi’s visit to Los Angeles hit on all the right cultural notes. He schmoozed Hollywood bigwigs and their errand boys, like Dodd and Biden, he watched a Lakers game, and cheered Obama’s 100,000 Strong China initiative to have a hundred thousand American students study in the Communist dictatorship.

“I can say with confidence my visit has been a full success,” Xi declared.

In China, culture serves the agenda of the Communist government. Unlike the Russians, who struggled vainly to stem the impact of American culture, their Chinese counterparts decided to control it at the source. Biden was a key figure in negotiating the terms on which the PRC would control Hollywood.

In 1962, the Manchurian Candidate depicted an effort by Communists in China, Russia, and elsewhere to kidnap and brainwash American soldiers. The modern remake replaced the Communists with a corporation and the Chinese doctor with a South African geneticist. China could not be offended. While Biden, Katzenberg, and Xi were partying at the Marriot, human rights protesters were calling for freedom, and being arrested by the henchmen of a one-party Democrat city and state for their trouble.

Even while Biden was falsely claiming that the Hollywood sellout would improve human rights in China, the rise of China was already violating human rights in America. Now, as Chinese drones fly over American cities, police stalk empty streets, social media monopolies monitor every single phone, and Democrat officials dismiss the Bill of Rights while locking up millions of people, our rights are gone. And Joe Biden is the Manchurian Candidate who long ago sold out the country he now seeks to rule.

11 posted on 12/06/2020 7:39:13 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: allendale

have all but seized Tesla, have access to whatever patents, isights or techniques Tesla and Space X have developed,

Could you elaborate a bit on your Tesla/Space X Chinese ownership?


12 posted on 12/06/2020 7:42:50 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: fso301

China will be the epicentre of the next World War.

What is not clear is where Russia will stand.


13 posted on 12/06/2020 7:48:50 AM PST by Boomer (Leftists/Leftism ruins everything it touches. Leftism is a toxic moral pestilence.)
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Washington DC and the crazy Left are far more likely to topple America than the Chinese are


14 posted on 12/06/2020 7:53:20 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Liz
Here are 23 questions the press needs to ask Biden but almost certainly won’t:

Can they be asked individually on billboards across the nation?

15 posted on 12/06/2020 7:56:06 AM PST by fso301
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To: BrexitBen
Sidney Powell is in possession ( IMHO ) of information that is so broad and damning that it will rock the world.

I'm not so sure.

The fact she hasn't been killed, implies she doesn't have that much.

16 posted on 12/06/2020 7:59:10 AM PST by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." - 2005, my quote. I never knew how prescient I was.)
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To: PGR88
Washington DC and the crazy Left are far more likely to topple America than the Chinese are

If left to their own devices yes. The question here is did their election fraud scheme extend beyond our nation's shores? If yes, what we are seeing definitely fits in with something on the order of China employing an Assassin's mace against the United States.

17 posted on 12/06/2020 8:01:24 AM PST by fso301
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Recall, Bill Clinton's treasonous ChinaGate scandal began in late 1996...

From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."

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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."
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First Russia-China naval war games underway in Mediterranean

By Carol J. Williams
May 11, 2015

Reporting from Moscow —

Neither Russia nor China has one inch of coastline on the Mediterranean Sea, making it an unlikely and provocative venue for their first joint naval war games.

The 10 days of maneuvers that got underway Monday will include live-fire exercises in the strategic sea connecting Europe, Africa and the Middle East. The point is lost on no one: A powerful new alliance of eastern giants is flexing its muscles in the very backyard of Western Europe — much as China has done on its own in the Pacific.

The war games follow Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit to Moscow, where he headlined Victory Day celebrations and spent three days making billion-dollar deals with Russian President Vladimir Putin. ...”

https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-china-russia-joint-naval-maneuvers-20150511-story.html

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Russia and China’s Growing Military Interaction; Surprised?

by Peter Zwack | September 9, 2018

The drums are already rolling for the upcoming Russian “Vostok” (east) wargames commencing on September 11. With its focal point in the Trans-Baikal region of eastern Siberia adjoining Chinese Manchuria and Mongolia, this is a nationwide Russian military and societal event.

Touted by Russian minister of defense Sergei Shoigu as “unprecedented in scale, both in terms of area of operations and numbers of military command structure, troops, and forces involved,” Russian state press is declaring that up to three hundred thousand troops and one thousand aircraft will be involved, with the majority from the Eastern and Central Military Districts.

This would be even larger than the near-legendary Zapad-81 maneuvers held in the western USSR during the depths of the Cold War. ...”

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Peace Mission 2005

Peace Mission 2005 was the first ever joint military exercise between China and Russia.

The exercise started on August 19, 2005, and consisted of combined land, sea, and air elements simulating an intervention in a state besieged by terrorists or political turmoil.

It concluded on August 25, 2005. The force practiced air and naval blockades, an amphibious assault, and occupying a region. Approximately 8,000 Chinese troops took part along with 2,000 Russian troops.

China initially wanted to hold the exercise near the Taiwan Strait, Russia wanted to hold the exercise in Northwestern China near central Asia, but instead settlement was made on the Shandong Peninsula.

There are a number of reasons for the exercise, including:

China is the largest consumer of Russian military technology. The exercise will showcase the Russian weapons including the Tupolev Tu-22M and Tupolev Tu-95 long range bombers.

The two countries are by far the most influential in the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation and the exercise will help to strengthen military ties.

Both countries have stated that the exercise is not directed at any one country, but many believed to be a show of force against the United States and particularly Taiwan.

The United States was not invited to observe the exercise, but did observe using satellite reconnaissance.[citation needed] The stated reason for the exercise is counter-terrorism; however, many analysts agree that the use of such heavy firepower, including long-range bombers, is not necessary. ...”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Mission_2005
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Below, from The Ministry of Defense for the Russian Federation website, Feb 3, 2020...

About 10 thousand servicemen will take part in the anti-terrorist exercise “Peace mission-2020”

About 10 thousand military personnel of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) member States will take part in a joint anti - terrorist exercise, which will be held for the first time at the Yurginsky training ground in the Kemerovo region in August this year.

Military representatives of the member States of the Shanghai cooperation organization (SCO) signed a joint Protocol on the results of the second round of consultations and staff negotiations.

The signed agreement includes issues of comprehensive support of troops and the plan of the exercise stages. Also, during the joint work, the participants visited the Yurginsky training ground, where they conducted reconnaissance of the main stage site.

In addition, the foreign military inspected the place of overcoming the water crossing on the equipment. This will be the first experience for some participating countries.

The consultations were attended by representatives of 8 countries - Russia, India, Kazakhstan, China, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. The negotiations were led by the Deputy Chief of Staff of the Central Military District, Major General Rustam Minnekayev.

The anti-terrorist exercise “Peace mission-2020” will be held in August on the territory of the Central Military District at the Yurginsky training ground in the Kemerovo region.

During the exercise, the military personnel will have to work out the tasks of preparing and conducting an anti-terrorist operation by the joint group of troops (forces) of the SCO member States.

Press Service of the Central Military District

https://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12280242@egNews

18 posted on 12/06/2020 8:01:39 AM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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Obama: “We Welcome China’s Rise”

--CBS News ^ | January 19, 2011 | Stephanie Condon
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[2011] Obama’s betrayal to China

President Obama is creating a post-American world - one that is ushering in the dominance of China.

Mr. Obama is fostering U.S. economic and military decline while simultaneously empowering Beijing’s rise to superpower status.

China’s communists are on the march. Unless Americans wake up to the growing threat, both internal and external, our victory in the Cold War will have been useless.

This is the disturbing theme of “Bowing to Beijing: How Barack Obama Is Hastening America’s Decline and Ushering a Century of Chinese Domination” ...”

It is a dire warning that China has become what America once was to Great Britain: the ambitious upstart determined to eclipse the global colossus. The result will be not only the end of the American moment, but the triumph of a belligerent authoritarian communism hostile to democracy and the West. ...”

—by Jeffrey T. Kuhner, Nov 11, 2011, The Washington Times

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[2012] Obama [figuratively and literally] bows to Chinese ‘enemy’

“President Barack Obama “bows” and “scrapes” to America’s Chinese “enemy,” House Science Committee Chairman Ralph Hall said Wednesday.

After a long grilling of White House science adviser John Holdren by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) about why the United States shouldn’t be pursuing scientific collaborations with China, Hall, a Texas Republican, said:
I don’t think you’re gonna get the answer that you expected to get, Mr. Rohrabacher. I too have seen our president bow and scrape to the enemy on many occasions.”

There was no response to Hall’s comment.

Rohrabacher had asked Holdren at the committee hearing why the Obama administration was so committed to collaborating with China, given the country’s human-rights record and history of technological espionage against the United States.

“Why is it that you feel — this administration feels — so compelled to reach out to the world’s worst human-rights abuser that is already in the process of stealing so much from us and who we have examples, over and over again, that scientific cooperation has turned into a transfer of wealth and technology to our adversary, to what appears to be economic, if not military and political adversary?” Rohrabacher said.

—DARIUS DIXON | Politico | June 20, 2012

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Obama China bows

Does the United States of America bows to the People's Republic of China?

Cyber-War Surrender: Obama Will Bow to China's Dictators

19 posted on 12/06/2020 8:02:41 AM PST by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! DEMOCRAT-Russia collusion!! Click ETL...)
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Recall, Bill Clinton's treasonous ChinaGate scandal began in late 1996...

Recall how Chinese cash was laundered through Indonesia to finance Clinton's campaigns.

20 posted on 12/06/2020 8:03:16 AM PST by fso301
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