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What If the Deep State Has No Bottom?
Townhall.com ^ | December 5, 2020 | Jeff Davidson

Posted on 12/05/2020 6:11:40 AM PST by Kaslin

What if the so-called deep state, as characterized by the recent activities of two, out of many, U.S. federal government agencies, is much deeper than we can all believe?

Of late, exceedingly troubling developments have emerged. The CIA, created under the National Security Act of 1947, was never supposed to spy on American citizens. Its mission was “to collect, analyze, evaluate, and disseminate foreign intelligence to assist the President and senior U.S. government policymakers in making decisions relating to national security.”

A Rogue Agency and Getting Worse

In recent years, in violation of the law, the CIA has spied on American citizens, undertaken domestic acts outside of its purview, and operated a rogue agency. Under the direction of John Brennan, as deep a swamp creature as has ever existed, the CIA engaged in long-term illegal operations against the Trump campaign and, even after Brennan, carried it over to the Trump Administration.

Time will tell if the CIA was involved in manipulating the 2020 election. CIA servers positioned in Germany may have received election data which was then recalibrated in some way and sent back to the US. Why does this relay even exist?

With a Biden Administration, if it were to happen, the CIA would grow ever more powerful, eventually manipulating nearly every aspect of American politics, let alone foreign policy and defense.

A Strong Drift off Course

The CIA is supposed to consist of dedicated personnel who watch out for the welfare of American citizens and American interests around the globe. Gina Haspel, the first female director, has intentionally slow-walked legitimate Freedom of Information requests and knowingly impeded lawful investigations into agency activities.

Presumably, Haspel is maintaining some sort of loyalty to staff and peers, but this is not part of her job description. She needs to be loyal to the president, the country, and her oath of office. Haspel should be fired and walked out of her office immediately, with all files, computers, and records kept out of her reach forevermore, as a thorough investigation takes place as to why she has resisted.

FBI: Unlawful, Inept, and Uncooperative

A second U.S. federal government agency, among so many others, has been unlawful, inept, uncooperative, and even diabolical. In assessing the FBI, my goodness, where can one even start? Before James Comey, going back to Robert Mueller, and even before him, the agency had gone rogue.

The FBI selectively pursues certain cases and individuals, and selectively ignores others. The agency’s allegiance to the U.S., to the Department of Justice, and to its own mission has strayed so far off course, one wonders why anyone aspires to lead the agency.

James Comey, in particular, is deceitful, cunning, and treasonous. While not on the same level as J. Edgar Hoover, Comey has flouted the law so often that he belongs in prison, now.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions didn't have the chops to take any action. Bill Barr moves more slowly than a sloth in hibernation. Why he hasn’t acted is a mystery for the ages: Comey has already lied under oath to Congress. Yet Barr and company have done nothing.

Some pundits conclude that Barr has bigger fish to fry, but months and years have rolled by and Comey is not only walking free, he is still shooting his mouth off, collecting royalties from his book of lies, and on the faculty of the College of William & Mary teaching ethical leadership. He also has been retained by Columbia University to lead a seminar titled “Lawyers and Leaders." Those poor students don’t have a chance!

Wray: A Study in Disaster

The FBI under Christopher Wray is not much better than under Comey. I say with kindness, Wray is a complete weasel. He has a pained look every time he's in front of Congress: He knows he's not telling the whole story. He is either an outright never Trumper or a secret never Trumper who is doing little to restore trust in the agency.

There's no telling what Wray is up to, but whatever it is, it portends badly for our country. He claims, for example, that Antifa is not an organization, merely an ideology.

During the 2020 election fiasco, the FBI has been tasked to investigate. Wray promptly delayed for six to eight days, and even then, is doing about one tenth of what could be done. Like Gina Haspel, Wray needs to be fired immediately; walked out of the building; and have all his files, computers, software, thumb drives, etc., analyzed.

Other agencies are equally inept or simply rogue – the topic of future articles. For now, let’s merely say that the CIA and the FBI are not the institutions that they once were, have betrayed the U.S. badly, and will not improve without major reorganization. The rank-and-file of both agencies could still be competent and trustworthy, but the upper echelon surely is not.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; corruption; deepstate; fbi; muhserver; realitysettingin; swamp
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1 posted on 12/05/2020 6:11:40 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Can’t hide from God.


2 posted on 12/05/2020 6:15:25 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: Kaslin

We’d better be armed and have a will to kill ... then.


3 posted on 12/05/2020 6:17:29 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ..... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Kaslin

Forget the term “deep state”. A more appropriate appelation is “globalists”. The globalists are people who believe that the future of the planet is best served by a powerful, authoritative one world government and not by multiple individual nation states. American globalists, who dominate academia, the MSM, big tech, and finance care little about the American nation, the liberties of the american people or their right for self determination. The globalists are the real enemy and must be stopped in a decisive manner.


4 posted on 12/05/2020 6:17:44 AM PST by allendale
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To: Kaslin

What if? Oh bla bla bla. A defining, clarifying moment has arrived: Either you uderstand that the election was stolen or you deny that. Patriots must attack, literally, the illegitimacy or they are not patriots. Whoever rises to defend is the enemy-Deepstate well you get the pucture.

Some things are dead simple and not to be got around.


5 posted on 12/05/2020 6:18:29 AM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Kaslin
The Deep State has a bottom.

If you dig deep enough, you pop out in China!

6 posted on 12/05/2020 6:18:42 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Kaslin

All the more reason for Trump to rescind Kennedy’s EO 10988.


7 posted on 12/05/2020 6:20:39 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: allendale
Globalist? Like those powerhouse countries like Belgium, France, Germany?

Think China. That's the REAL threat.

8 posted on 12/05/2020 6:22:12 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: allendale; TalBlack

Once the globalists got both parties to set aside the Constitution and put the Kenyan from Indonesia in office in direct violation of the Constitution, our fate was sealed.

He corrupted our entire government.

Trump was our last chance at a restoration of the Republic.


9 posted on 12/05/2020 6:24:05 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin

Then sadly enough it stops being the “deep state” and just becomes the “state”.

Quoting Syndrome from the Incredibles~

“With everyone super, no one will be”

~Sorry you got me monologuing.......


10 posted on 12/05/2020 6:24:12 AM PST by Ndorfin (Kitties,titties, and fiddies oh, and no sickies)
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To: Kaslin

“Like Gina Haspel, Wray needs to be fired immediately”

Add Attorney General Barr to the list. President Trump needs to fire all three (3) immediately. All are traitors to the core. This is the time we have all feared my come, Patriots needs to stand and defend the United States of America or our Country is lost.


11 posted on 12/05/2020 6:26:21 AM PST by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson )
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To: All
Time will tell if the CIA was involved in manipulating the 2020 election. CIA servers positioned in Germany may
have received US election data which was then recalibrated and sent back to the US. Why does this relay even exist?

FR POSTED---Evidence supports Sidney Powell’s claim about global election fraud: Testimony
in Arizona and a newly released tech declaration back up her claims.....and may even implicate Obama

A retired military analyst testified at the Arizona vote fraud hearing:
<><> the US has captured the data that was sent overseas to foreign actors messing with our election.

An active duty military analyst revealed,
<><> within five days of Nov 3, he traced dominonvotingsystems.com, (their proprietary URL),
to Belgrade, Iran, China and ....drum roll please.....Barack Obama.

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REFERENCE---In recent years, in violation of the law, the CIA has spied on American citizens, undertaken domestic acts outside of its purview, and operated a rogue agency. Under the direction of John Brennan, as deep a swamp creature as has ever existed, the CIA engaged in long-term illegal operations against the Trump campaign and, even after Brennan, carried it over to the Trump Administration.

12 posted on 12/05/2020 6:27:17 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: Safrguns

“Can’t hide from God.”

The rest of us can help arrange the meetings.


13 posted on 12/05/2020 6:28:26 AM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: allendale
-- Forget the term "deep state". A more appropriate appelation is "globalists". --

This "new world order' stuff is taught to all poli-sci majors, as a fait accompli. The classes are how to implement the inevitable. All professional politicians are globalists. I know of zero exceptions to this. The administrative state hems in the boundaries for local decisions, money supply is globalist in nature, etc.

"Interdependency" is another buzzword. Of course interdependency exists, but the buzzword is used to paper over the selling out of nations to enrich the globalists.

The only way to stop them is strip them of power. "Resist," non-compliance, and other revolutionary actions by the people are the counterforce. The rule of law is a globalist tool. None of the systems of law is honest, they are all rigged. The globalists do not see any of this a a flaw, rather a feature. The sham rituals and palaces look great., The high priests of law are true believes in their religion. To them, this is all righteous justice.

The Bible says the globalists win, then they lose.

14 posted on 12/05/2020 6:29:32 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Kaslin

An article essentially stringing together many FReeper posts.

Good article with questions we have been discussing for a long time.


15 posted on 12/05/2020 6:34:19 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: All

THE ETERNAL DEEP STATE
Joe Biden’s pick for Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, scrubbed one of his company’s services.
Blinken offered U.S. research universities the opportunity to garner funds from foreign donors, such as China.....
w/ assurances they were not violating DoD-sponsored research grants, the Washington Free Beacon reported.

In July, WestExec, a consulting firm Blinken co-founded in 2017, listed “US research universities” as a beneficiary of Blinken’s services:
<><> assisting prominent US colleges.
<><> expanding foreign research collaboration,
<><> accepting foreign donations,
<><> welcoming foreign students in key STEM programs.”


CONCLUSION This sounds an awful lot like the ongoing scam where people paid big bucks to falsify apps for colleges,
finagled admissions testing, and bribed college personnel to accept marginal students.

The scam was so intense, they even bribed sports personnel w/ big bucks AND
faked pics showing kids rowing, playing tennis, etc, which were actually photoshopped.


16 posted on 12/05/2020 6:36:56 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: Kaslin
"Other agencies are equally inept or simply rogue – the topic of future articles. For now, let’s merely say that the CIA and the FBI are not the institutions that they once were, have betrayed the U.S. badly, and will not improve without major reorganization. The rank-and-file of both agencies could still be competent and trustworthy, but the upper echelon surely is not."

If the upper echelon were promoted from within, I would have a big asterisk put by the part I bolded. The 2020 election (actually, several things that have happened in 2020) has all the hallmarks of a color revolution that our intelligence agencies have conducted overseas.

17 posted on 12/05/2020 6:40:00 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Safrguns

‘Can’t hide from God.’

I could not agree with you more. But that has nothing to do with the suffering imposed by man upon man while we are here on this earth.

There must be justice, some man made effort to curb the criminal activity of these agencies.

After the culprits are in jail or executed for treason, then God can have them.


18 posted on 12/05/2020 6:48:48 AM PST by redfreedom
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To: Tench_Coxe

I sure would have liked for President Trump to expose just how little the Federal government really needs to function. Without the deep state I would bet 3 Trillion would be enough. This also explains why they are so tenacious.


19 posted on 12/05/2020 6:49:03 AM PST by AdSimp
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To: allendale

“globalists are people who believe that the future of the planet is best served by a powerful, authoritative one world government”

When Bush’s “New World Order” was first spoken, then later changed to “Globalism”, to me it all meant the same thing.

That same thing is what Hitler thought was a good idea by having the world under Nazi control. Stalin thought globalism was a good thing too, only under communist control. Go back through history and there are numerous conquerors that thought their brand of government would be good for the whole world.

What we have going on now is nothing new. Just rebranding communism in a more fashionable term.


20 posted on 12/05/2020 6:54:00 AM PST by redfreedom
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