Posted on 12/04/2020 5:52:16 PM PST by kellymcneill
Cogent ... and succinct. Congrats
You're making the same mistake as those who think the SC, or the EC decide the election. That's just not so.
Evidence of a fraudulent election will be judged by the Congress. It certainly has to be developed in courts to be persuasive! And it needs to be very persuasive.
But the judge and jurors of the electoral trials are the Congressmembers.
And their deadline is, I believe, Jan 6.
Exactly. I agree with your entire post. I can't help but believe Trump doesn't have this hole card up his sleeve to put a stop to this. Lately, he looks relaxed and confident, almost giddy, knowing what's coming. He has the look a cheshire cat who is privy to much more information than the rest of us have.
He will either invoke the Insurrection Act (its updated, retitled version) or his EO of 2018 or a combination of both.
Good analysis. Looks like we are on the same page. Some FReepers dismiss this talk as just grasping for straws but I don't agree. It is a very real scenario that could play out very soon.
Thanks for responding.
Americans going to war with each other would be a much bigger win for China than merely imposing a sympathetic ruler upon us.
What a treat for them!
I think we could suffer less from an interregnum. Though it will be very difficult.
You made an important point in that the EO gets activated THEN the Insurrection Act is triggered through section 1.
“...nothing can be done.”
False Everything can be done. 90% chance that Trump will be declared the next president.
Would you really prefer Biden and China running the country than Trump? Biden is just a place holder. China is pulling the strings. This is their backdoor to taking over the US.
Civil war is not the goal here. Eliminating the treasonous players in both parties involved in this massive election fraud in order to restore the Republic is the goal.
Martial law will be required or having a Republic will be moot.
And martial law can quell the opponents of the nasty little domestic terrorists the demon rats rely on- if China prevails.
January 6 is not a “deadline” for the Congress. It’s simply the date at which they’re required to convene and begin trying to sort it out. There’s actually not any deadline... until January 20th... at which point there’s a requirement defined in law, 3USC15 I think, to determine an “acting” President... who serves until the mess gets sorted properly.
Before we ever get there, there are other problems with the still unresolved legitimacy of the current elections for the House and Senate, including many elections the outcomes of which might have been altered by the same frauds as are screwing up the Presidential (and VP) race.
January 6th is a deadline only because the Constitution dictates that date for the meeting of a joint session of the House and Senate, after having seated the new Congress on January 2nd. What happens between Jan 6 and Jan 20... is pretty wide open, potentially wild and woolly, sure to be entertaining.
The SCOTUS inputs... might enable avoiding those later stage theatrics... if they can sort out the nature of the problems that exist in relation to the difference between the election as it was conducted, and the requirements for proper conduct of elections as defined in laws consistent with the requirements of the Constitution.
Given the evidence that’s emerging... the odds of any court certifying that the “results” being claimed, or even fraudulently “certified”... are in fact “fraud free”... or “at a level that could not change the outcome”... appear vanishingly small.
Way to soon to predict what will happen... in legislatures or courts... (much less on January 6th, or in Congress after that if a result is not forthcoming) given the pace at which incontrovertible proofs are emerging right now. But, the momentum is all on Trump’s side...
Thinking persons are likely still considering the potential that the worst of it has not yet been broached, much less been fully exposed...
There’s much more to come...
It will get even more interesting...
Yeah, if we’re consumed in civil strife China will really suffer LOL!
Bearing with a foreign puppet like Joe (or, more likely Kamala)for a President will hurt but our Founders put in much to limit the damage they can do.
So martial law is the only other alternative to solving this election mess and taking down the bad players at the same time. A win-win situation as they say.
“There’s actually not any deadline... until January 20th...”
True!
Good points.
I strongly believe Trump will not be well defended by Congress since he is not a “Party man”. Past electoral disputes have been decided strongly upon Party lines.
But we’ll see what happens. It is indeed interesting!
Besides, Biden, Harris and the democRAT party are all Marxist commies now. Why they think that is popular, I have no idea, since we have been fighting the communists for decades.
I don't know about you but my wife and I didn't invest 20 years of our lives in the military fighting for a free America just to have the communists in charge.
I’m from the South.
We take civil war very seriously.
We were plundered and oppressed for almost a century after losing one.
Again, we've not suggesting Trump is going to start a civil war. If you don't think the Republic is not already under siege from what the democRATS have attempted to do, then you are not awake.
We're talking temporary martial law to restore the integrity of the election system in the country. Without it, we do not have a Republic.
Damn took them long enough
“including many elections the outcomes of which might have been altered by the same frauds as are screwing up the Presidential (and VP) race.”
I agree, many dems won in 2020 and previous elections due to cheating. Win by any means is how they always operate.
ALL elections in 2020 should be forensic audited/voided. If one (some) county(s) cheated, all were able to have had forms of cheating going on. It’s not rocket science, with races called before counting even got under way and known corruption in Dem cities and Red areas miraculously going Blue in 2018 etc. 2020 was fraud escalated year and not just a few states and only for President race.
ALL Repubs who conceded in 2020 were spineless and or did not really want the job they sought.
sickens me to hear so many Repubs not back Trump and his fight against root of this evil. Those Reps seem entertwined with that root.
That’s the one with specific documented issues with votes being swapped, and at least two different, vague, and problematic explanations for the cause.
There was the article posted on FR last night which said the Republicans did not have standing to challenge a statute until after they’ve been harmed, not before.
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