Posted on 12/03/2020 8:51:22 AM PST by rxsid
Renowned scientist tells Laura Ingraham the COVID-19 vaccine is 'downright dangerous' and will send you 'to your doom'
On Wednesday, The Ingraham Angle broadcast a mind-boggling live interview with a world-renowned microbiologist who said the "looming" COVID-19 vaccine is "downright dangerous" and will send you "to your doom." The expert, Sucharit Bhakdi, M.D., speaking from his home in Germany, also said this:
Laura Ingraham, Fox News channel host: On the social distancing and the mask, just to focus on that for a moment, which of those two in your research and your work has been the most displaced?Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi: Both.
Ingram: Both. Not backed up by the science.
Bhakdi: Zero science.
Bhakdi is the co-author of Corona: False Alarm?, a massive bestseller in Germany that was published in English here on October 2. The book is currently the #1 bestseller in the Amazon categories of Microbiology, Pulmonary Medicine, and Health Law.
In response to Ingraham's question of why these methods — including masks and social distancing — are being "pushed," Bhakdi elaborated:
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Bhakdi described as "utter nonsense" Dr. Anthony Fauci's claim earlier Wednesday during a live interview on The Story with Martha MacCallum on the Fox News Channel that 75% of Americans would need to be vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to achieve herd immunity. Bhakdi added, "Someone who says this has not the slightest inkling of the basics of immunology."
In response to Ingraham's final question, "So you think the COVID-19 vaccine is unnecessary?" Bhakdi replied: "I think it's downright dangerous. And I warn you, if you go along these lines, you are going to go to your doom"(emphasis added).
At that point, Ingraham ran out of time but promised to have Dr. Bhakdi back on her program.
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Actually it's exactly the opposite: accepting that the numbers are as high as they makes it more important that the governors and state government officials, health departments, etc. have effective policies. If nobody's dying because none of this is real, then who cares whether they're putting infected patients into nursing homes and causing people to pack the aisles at Costco to panic-buy the toilet paper? What does it matter that they're putting up homeless people in hotel rooms on the taxpayer dime?
But if this is all real and they're knowingly putting infected people into nursing homes, leading to tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths - possibly as many as 100,000 unnecessary deaths? Then they should be under indictment and on their way to prison. Then inspiring panic-buying at Costco and Walmart is driving up infection rates and causing unnecessary deaths. And taking homeless people from the outdoors (low risk per the CDC) and putting them indoors (high risk per the CDC) is costing lives.
Accepting the reality of the deaths being what they are is completely separate from accepting that the response has been effective. It hasn't been. To some degree, I think it's been literally criminal. This is a serious situation. It demands a serious response. What we've gotten - particularly from states with Democrats running the government - has been a bunch of half-baked anti-science nonsense that's driven businesses out of business and middle class families into poverty.
I accept the numbers for what they are because all the research I've done into them suggests the numbers are largely accurate. What one must also then examine is how many lives have been lost BECAUSE of the response from the governors. And every one of those lives should be considered criminally negligent homicide when the eventuality was foreseeable. Put Cuomo in shackles and never let him see the light of day again. Newsom too. Probably a half dozen others right along with them. Yeah, those deaths are real, and a boatload of them are dead BECAUSE these idiots utterly failed to effectively respond.
“Fringe Nutjob”? Does saying this provide you with a feeling of superiority and smugness that you think others are going to appreciate?
I watched the interview he gave on a German language program and he seems pretty circumspect on both the nature of the virus and the political response we have seen to dealing with it.
If you had read his book on the subject, which will not be available in English on Amazon until Dec 20th or later, maybe then you could see what he means by “doom” with regard to lifelong negative side effects to the immune system?
I won’t dismiss him just because I don’t want to admit I have been lied to by the media and main stream AMA medicine for almost a year now.
I would rather have anti-bodies to this illness and be done with it. No need for a vaccine. Several treatments exist for it that are 100% effective for those who are high risk. Dr. Thomas Borody.
Yup. When someone says loony things while claiming authority, I'll label them appropriately. I'm not going to feel bad about that. If he said the vaccines were made with DNA from aliens or Sasquatch, I'd laugh at him then too. Say ridiculous things, get laughed at. Seems fair to me.
"lifelong negative side effects to the immune system"
Pure speculation based on nothing. There's a word for this: FUD. It means Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. It describes when somebody is just trying to scare people with no actual basis behind it because they have an agenda.
"I won’t dismiss him just because I don’t want to admit I have been lied to by the media and main stream AMA medicine for almost a year now."
Why wouldn't someone want to admit that the media is a bunch of lying incompetent idiots? I happily sing that song all the time. Same with politicians: bunch of lying fools, nearly every last one of them.
"I would rather have anti-bodies to this illness and be done with it."
What do you think the vaccine gives you? (Hint: it's antibodies). But instead of getting the infectious disease that's destroying your lung tissue and creating blood clots (which, if we're talking about what long term effects we don't fully understand yet, are far more worrying than anything with the vaccines), you get harmless antigens that spur antibody creation through the natural immune system processes.
"Several treatments exist for it that are 100% effective for those who are high risk."
Any doctor who tells you they have a 100% effective treatment for anything is lying to you. And 99% of doctors will tell you exactly the same thing. No treatment is ever 100% effective. None. There are exceptions in literally every single case based on the specific physiology, genetics, and medical history of each individual patient. You might have an extremely effective treatment that works 99% of the time, but that 1% still exists. And in a nation of 330 million people, 1% is 3,300,000 exceptions.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Thomas Borody
Yes, the Surgeon General was saying that: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/health/coronavirus-n95-face-masks.html
Plenty of officials were saying the same thing until they got overruled and threatened by politicians. What a box to be put in, commit malpractice or face firing and loss of license. That’s how science is supposed to work?
Trump asmin sent his staffers to monitor Redfield and staff. Think that is super wrong and I am a Trumper.
Some allege there’s a male sterilization component to COVID-19. And aren’t vaccine’s essentially derivatives of the virus to be combated?
How many corona virus vaccines have been approved for human use?
How many corona viruses are there that effect humans?
How many mRNA vaccines have been approved for human use?
How many mRNA vaccines have been studied in long term studies (animal or human)?
Why use just the spike protein as the vaccines immunology response?
Why is this mRNA going to be given to just the first world Anglo populations and not Asia or Africa or ME?
WHY WHY WHY .......
you don’t know anything but you are trying hard to act like it.
Gates is involved in one vaccine........not all 4 and not Pfizer or Moderna.
Well, what if this vaccine is forced on everyone. How do you dismiss that?
What you say sounds real good. But, when will they unleash the next virus? The covid vaccine won’t be worth diddly. The intention is to keep people behind masks, separated by distance, lonely, needy and depending on a tyrannical government to tell them what to do.
Perhaps they could make a vaccine for the common cold too.
So what’s YOUR authority on this subject?
"How many mRNA vaccines have been approved for human use?"
1 in the UK (Pfizer) with another (Moderna) on the way within a week or two. 0 in the US with both of the above almost guaranteed approval in the next two weeks.
"How many corona viruses are there that effect humans?"
7. SARS-CoV-1 (SARS2003), MERS-CoV (MERS2012), SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19), and then 229E, NL63, OC43, and HKU1 which cause 12-20% of the "common colds" people experience between the four.
"How many mRNA vaccines have been studied in long term studies (animal or human)?"
1 mRNA vaccine for VEEV has been in approved and in use for several years. Moderna has been testing the mRNA platform they've pioneered for years. The company itself was formed over a decade ago. Other pharmaceutical companies have been working on mRNA platforms as long or longer than Moderna.
"Why use just the spike protein as the vaccines immunology response?"
That's the part of the virus that's been found to trigger the best, most reliable immune response.
"Why is this mRNA going to be given to just the first world Anglo populations and not Asia or Africa or ME?"
Because they can't afford it and lack the environmental controls to properly store and distribute it.
"you don’t know anything but you are trying hard to act like it."
Whatever makes you feel better.
I don't claim any authority for myself; I quote authoritative sources.
We seem to be averaging about every 7 years or so. 2003 for SARS, MERS was 2012, and COVID-19 in 2019. I'd expect something in another 5-8 years. Hopefully we'll have better responses from governments that don't involve pointless shutdowns by then and hospitals will be better prepared ahead of time.
"Perhaps they could make a vaccine for the common cold too."
The "common cold" is a set of symptoms caused by any one of over 200 different viruses. There's no technical reason we couldn't make it, but for the amount of work going into it, nobody's going to pay $20,000 a year to avoid getting the common cold. But sure, we could do it.
I’m a Trumper too and that really bothers me. My neighbor, who is a doctor and spent 20 years as an Air Force flight surgeon, basically gave me this rundown of face masks:
The paper medical ones: are designed to be used in sterile operating rooms. Anywhere else, they’re worthless.
N95 masks? blow air unvented, so they don’t stop you from spreading disease via breathing out.
T-shirt material/homemade: worse than worthless, they collect spittle around your mouth and subject you to all kinds of infections. It’s like walking around with a rotten chunk of food taped to your lip.
It’s not a medical decision, it’s a political one.
N95 masks - there are different models, and plenty do not have the valve.
T-shirt - multi-layered-panels - has some efficiency, but is of course not “perfect protection.”
Using any mask, requires proper handling and maintenance -— but some people cannot be bothered.
Actually, if the numbers that are currently put out were inflated by a factor of 10, they still wouldn’t justify the lockdowns and draconian measures on businesses. I for one am pretty damn tired of being pushed around by state governors and federal officials that think they’re emperors.
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