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Counterpoint: Tucker Carlson and the conservative circular firing squad; Someone who agrees with me 80% of the time and disagrees 20% is not my enemy. But many conservatives are, for understandable reasons, purists
American Thinker ^ | 11/25/2020 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 11/25/2020 6:32:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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Tucker’s Epstein story admits that manipulation of information could sway millions of votes. That is true, and it happened, but that isn’t vote fraud.

Actual vote fraud, the largest vote steal in history, involving both bogus computer systems and wholesale counterfeiting, that Fox will not discuss. There are hundreds of witnesses willing to talk about their own sliver of information, but Fox is not talking to them. They allegedly are a news org with reporters on staff, but they are not reporting on this story.

Fox along with every other propaganda company has agreed to enforce censorship on covid, vote fraud, and Soros. You can’t question the accepted story on any of those and work at Fox. Tucker is doing the best he can within the limits they have imposed on him.


41 posted on 11/25/2020 7:27:06 AM PST by marron
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To: Hulka

Always refreshing to see some republican take a moral stand against the 80% republican, no matter if such a stand costs us elections, in in this election, the country will be lost forever to the dems.


Trump’s presidency is likely “lost forever” and it wasn’t just Democrats who stole it from him. Vote for those coupists if you wish. My family won’t be.


42 posted on 11/25/2020 7:29:11 AM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90

“purists”

A lot of ugly floaters in that pure sample...?


43 posted on 11/25/2020 7:31:46 AM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: lepton

Here, the difference with Tucker is much smaller than the 20%.


Tucker is deliberately playing small ball now. He won’t touch any third rails like he did during the antifa riots. Tucker made a real difference then. Senate Johnson withdrew his plan to cancel Columbus day after Tucker pounced. Now Tucker has reassumed a controlled opposition role.


44 posted on 11/25/2020 7:32:09 AM PST by lodi90
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To: SeekAndFind

You’re either for our republic...or against it.

If that makes me a purist, so be it.

FWIW, I come from a very, very long line of them.


45 posted on 11/25/2020 7:34:09 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: dfwgator; sarge83

I think it’s rich that conservatives are now purist after the NeverTrumper and GOP establishments behavior the last four years.


Especially given the corruption of Biden. Trump sends mean tweets. Biden rakes in millions in corrupt influence peddling cash from around the globe. And Trump is the morale reprobate? Nonsense.


46 posted on 11/25/2020 7:34:36 AM PST by lodi90
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To: SeekAndFind

“Someone who agrees with me 80% of the time and disagrees 20% is not my enemy.”

Someone who undermines a such a reflection point in history 20% of the time IS MY SWORN ENEMY!


47 posted on 11/25/2020 7:45:14 AM PST by apostoli (The only cotton they ever picked was out of an aspirin bottle.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fox Ratings Collapse Monday- 4 Week Losses:
Nielsen Cable Ratings are in for Monday 11/23.

Here are Fox ratings losses on Monday over 4 weeks:

Ingraham -58%

McCallum -57%

Hannity -52%

Cavuto -50%

Baier -50%

Carlson -46%

Fox and Friend -44%,

Perino -38%


48 posted on 11/25/2020 7:46:21 AM PST by COUNTrecount ("I've always won, and I'm going to continue to win. And that's the way it is." -- Donald Trump)
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To: lodi90

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“Don’t forget the “purity test”, too. The GOPe kapos are out trying to bully MAGA voters into supporting Perdue and Loeffler. Yeah, no thanks. Let Haley Barbour rustle up some votes for them in Fulton Country. I’m caring about their election exactly as much as the GOPe cared about stopping the coup.”

No, I care about that election. But I care from the standpoint of preserving the GOP for Trump. Trump has started a movement that is bigger than the Tea Party. I need to maintain the Senate to ensure the democrats don’t out and out outlaw opposition by legislating their agenda. Its one thing to do it by EO, another to encode it in the law.


49 posted on 11/25/2020 7:50:49 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: SeekAndFind

Cheat on me once and you are forever a cheater. Betray me once and you are forever a traitor.

I will never watch Fox again.


50 posted on 11/25/2020 7:51:44 AM PST by FLT-bird
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RE: Cheat on me once and you are forever a cheater. Betray me once and you are forever a traitor.

Did Tucker Carlson do that?


51 posted on 11/25/2020 7:52:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: FLT-bird

Agree!

Fox stabbed us in the back and I got the message: don’t vote with your time and channel for people that hate you.

Ditto the NFL.

Turn the channel and eventually those that hate you will suffer economically and might actually get fired. Eventually.


52 posted on 11/25/2020 7:54:53 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: nikos1121

That didn’t just happen in Pennsylvania


53 posted on 11/25/2020 7:55:57 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: FlipWilson

Or, perhaps it’s that Tucker has pledged his loyalty to those who sign his check. Nothing wrong with that, you take a check, you owe a duty.

But we owe no such duty, our viewership is what generates the money that pays his check. His employer shot us in the back and we are registering our market choice not to watch or support them.
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My view as well. I still think Tucker is a good guy. But for $6 Million a year you had better do what the bosses want you to do even if it ruins your show. Which of course it did.

Somehow I think we will get our old Tucker back someday. But it won’t be on Fox. Maybe it will be on the Trump News Network and way more than $6 Million. Fingers crossed.


54 posted on 11/25/2020 7:58:57 AM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Tucker works for Fox and Fox did that. Watching Tucker helps Fox. No dice.

Leave Fox, and I’ll consider watching him again.


55 posted on 11/25/2020 7:58:58 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: SeekAndFind

Carlson takes a paycheck from an enemedia outlet of Deep State.

A man cannot serve two masters.


56 posted on 11/25/2020 7:59:20 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: SeekAndFind

if it were truly 80/20 pro-conservative, it would not be a problem. But with Fox, it’s 80/20 in favor of the commiecrat globalists, and 100/0 against actually doing journalism.

They are on the 4AM talking point circuit, where they’re told what to say along with the rest of the mainstream media parrots.

Even people we thought were conservative have turned on us (Yeah, Laura, that means YOU).


57 posted on 11/25/2020 8:02:01 AM PST by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA! Derps vs. Patriots, choose your side.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I may be in the minority here, but I don't see a problem with Tucker Carlson on either one of those points.

1. He works for Fox News. As long as he's employed there, it's ridiculous for anyone to have any expectation that he'd "take his own network to task" in a public manner. His first obligation is to his employer, and I suspect most of the people here on FR criticizing him for this are big-mouthed keyboard warriors who would meekly submit to anything and everything their own employers would hold over them.

2. The criticism of Tucker on this second point is a bit more reasonable, but even there I wouldn't hold it against him too much. Sidney Powell has to face some justified criticism herself on this. One key point against her is this: You can't sit there and say you won't present compelling evidence of your allegations on the spot because "I'm not trying this case in the court of public opinion" -- while you're sitting there doing on interview on a cable news channel whose sole purpose is to convey your allegations to a public audience.

I don't watch Tucker Carlson because I haven't watched Fox News in years. I recognized long ago that it's nothing more than tabloid-trash television aimed at an audience with an IQ of about 90 ... and some of its most marginal hosts look like Mensa members in comparison because they have IQs of 95-100.

58 posted on 11/25/2020 8:06:54 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: COUNTrecount

RE: Hannity -52%; Cavuto -50%

I’m surprised that more people are abandoning Hannity who has been consistent in his support of Trump than Neil Cavuto, who isn’t.


59 posted on 11/25/2020 8:07:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: UB355

A lot of people (on our side) are having extreme difficulty understanding that point.


60 posted on 11/25/2020 8:07:53 AM PST by crosdaddy
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