[fr_freak]

2) I am admitting more people with real covid than ever - we are currently at about twice our hospitalization numbers as we were in March and April...people are still getting very ill and there are still deaths from covid...including some relatively young people with bad disease

Give us a hospital where this is happening, so it can be verified. Otherwise, I call bullsh!t. The hospitals everywhere else are ghost towns.

[Mom MD]

a 17 hospital system across 2 states.

[CodeToad]

I wouldn’t call BS on Mom MD. My wife runs about 40 facilities and she is seeing the same thing. Not all COVID, but also one wicked upper respiratory that’s been going around.

[mewzilla]

If you go to each state's health department website and look at hospital utilization rates, many states have pretty high rates, some with a lot of WuFlu.

Some problems interpreting that data...

1) Hospitals tend to like high utilization rates since empty beds cost money. So how much of high use is due to WuFlu and how much is just with patients who have WuFlu and are in for additional/other reasons.

2) Meanwhile, most states do not have their ICU capacity maxed out. If statewide ICU and ventilator useage isn't near peak, and in most states it ain't, I don't see a crisis.

And I'll just throw this last one in cuz it torques me off...

Fauci Himself Admits Covid PCR Test at Over 35 Cycles Is Deceitful, Worse Than Useless "It's just dead nucleoids, period.”

Try getting the Ct info from your state, local public officials and labs. I hope you have better luck than I've had.