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Divided Pennsylvania House gives approval for audit of 2020 election - BY FEBRUARY 2021!
Pittsburgh Post Gazette ^ | 11/20/2020 | Ford Turner

Posted on 11/20/2020 10:58:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Unacceptable.

After mass amnesty, they won’t need to cheat so it won’t matter.


61 posted on 11/20/2020 12:16:59 PM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: SeekAndFind
An acceptable corollary.

-PJ

62 posted on 11/20/2020 12:18:04 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Tallguy
But if they are suggesting by this vote to audit the election that they might not seat any electors from PA

The problem with this thinking is the impact of the 14th Amendment.

14th Amendment Clause 2

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

All it will take is for a voter (or perhaps a candidate Elector) to appeal to the Supreme Court that failure of the PA legislature to appoint Electors abridges the voters and must result in the disqualification of the entire Pennsylvania House delegation from Congress.

-PJ

63 posted on 11/20/2020 12:27:54 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Certify now. Pretend to care later, but everyone knows later will never come. And, even if it does, it will be a whitewash and no substantive changes will be made, because the corrupt like a corrupt process. Who needs voters, when votes in any number can be created out of thin air?


64 posted on 11/20/2020 12:32:01 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: SeekAndFind
I just heard on Rush's program (about an hour ago)that Dominion's software was supposed to be in court in PA but didn't show up.. They cleared out.! Nobody can find them..

Now THAT gives me heart.! I feel pretty good about that...

65 posted on 11/20/2020 12:40:23 PM PST by unread (A REPUBLIC..! If you can keep it....)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s actually why I made Georgia the second state in my list. Ideally, PA, GA, WS, MI, MN, VA, AZ, and NV would fail to certify.


66 posted on 11/20/2020 12:41:56 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: unread
Not court. A hearing in front of the Pennsylvania House committee.

-PJ

67 posted on 11/20/2020 12:44:14 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Translation: “We’ll fix it next time for sure.”


68 posted on 11/20/2020 12:46:13 PM PST by Antoninus (The press has lost the ability to persuade. They retain the ability to foment a panic.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
"Not court." "A hearing in front of the Pennsylvania House committee."

Yeah, that's what it was, a house committee.. Sorry about that..

69 posted on 11/20/2020 12:50:40 PM PST by unread (A REPUBLIC..! If you can keep it....)
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To: lee martell

All Trump needs is to show the fraud that occurred in WI, MI and PA which was EPIC.

These republican legislatures cannot certify this fraud. I fully expect DJT to be sworn into his 2nd term in January.


70 posted on 11/20/2020 1:39:55 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

The presumption is a failure to appoint electors in PA would be equaled in WI, MI, GA and AZ. I think even that would not suffice. But it seems impossible the contingent election in the House only takes place when the count is exactly equal.


71 posted on 11/20/2020 2:23:00 PM PST by Owen
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To: Owen
But it seems impossible the contingent election in the House only takes place when the count is exactly equal.

It's not when it's exactly equal, it's when nobody reaches a majority of the votes cast.

The only way it can happen with two major parties is an equal vote of 269-269, but historically it happened with multiple party candidates receiving votes.

If Perot or Nadar had received votes, it might have been enough to keep the leader from getting the majority.

If more states move to proportional elections like Maine and Nebraska allocating by Congressional district, it might be possible to see regional candidates winning a few Electoral Votes. This might make it more likely that the leader doesn't get a majority of the votes cast.

The Constitution is a document trying to anticipate the possibilities, without imposing limits on the states. It was the states that were imposing limits on the federal government, and having the federal government choose the President was designed to be a very rare case.

That's why having the state legislatures stepping in to make the call is a backstop against the federal government controlling the selection of the President.

-PJ

72 posted on 11/20/2020 2:32:34 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: ZOOKER

preserve evidence

publicly highlight other shortcomings of the existing voting system - open a gift that keeps on giving between now and february

keep the controversy in the headlines until resolved

prevent the controversy from falling from the public spotlight

provide a citation/springboard/cover for other legislative actions


73 posted on 11/20/2020 2:49:09 PM PST by SteveH
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To: SteveH

provide a voting record platform for highlighting liberal PA representative hypocrisy


74 posted on 11/20/2020 2:50:35 PM PST by SteveH
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To: Ingtar

> ...WS...

WI?

:)


75 posted on 11/20/2020 2:52:54 PM PST by SteveH
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like “Lock the barn door but the horse is long gone”


76 posted on 11/20/2020 2:59:35 PM PST by citizen (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. John Adams)
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To: HamiltonJay

Just for the heck of it, let’s assume that they certify the vote for Biden and he is inaugurated on 20 Jan 2021. Then the results of the audit are that PDJT actually won PA. What would be the fallout? I think that it then gives PDJT a bully pulpit so large that no one could deny his allegations that the election was stolen and that Biden is “illegitimate” and guarantee his landslide victory in 2024.

I am not conceding the election, I’m just looking at the possibilities.


77 posted on 11/20/2020 5:45:19 PM PST by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: SteveH

Sorry.. fingers misfired.


78 posted on 11/20/2020 7:20:04 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: Yo-Yo
HOLD THE CLERKS ACCOUNTABLE WITH FINES AND/OR JAIL TIME.

Having them dragged out of bed into the night by a pack of hyenas and then find their half eaten bodies the next day works for me, like that hyena thread.

79 posted on 11/20/2020 9:14:18 PM PST by going hot
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To: SeekAndFind

“Why bother? Here is what I think the rationale is...]

The beauty of an audit is that it tracks findings and compiles them in real time and reports them periodically in the form of status updates to the client, (in this case the house of representatives), if they are uncovering massive fraudulent votes, the house simply does not seat their electors.

It’s not that that take them from either candidate, they remove the electors from the equation altogeher, as the Constitution allows.

So what, neither candidate has 270 electors, no automatic victor!

Then what?

Nancy Pelosi lifts up her great big gavel and the Constitution guides her by the nose-ring to re-electing Donald J. Trump 28-22 by a House vote.

Alexander Hamilton! My name is Alexander Hamilton. (The Founder, not the black rap show on Broadway, that existed pre-Covid).

It will be the MOST beautiful win you will ever see in your life.


80 posted on 11/20/2020 9:19:19 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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