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Vista Outdoors Announces 1-Year, $1 Billion Ammunition Backlog
gunsamerica.com ^ | 12/12/2020 | Jordan Michaels

Posted on 11/16/2020 8:16:00 AM PST by rktman

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To: tired&retired

If I find a pallet “staged” someplace I might share. :-)


41 posted on 11/16/2020 9:49:14 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

AS stated previously. I can’t say it was because I saw this coming, but I have the capacity to reload large numbers of cartridges in a fairly short period of time. I stocked up enough on components to keep myself busy when everything was easy to get. The only factory assembled cartridges that I have a lot of are Eastern Block in water proof cans with berdan primers that were designed to last for many decades.

I didn’t realize that the prices on primers had gone up so much before they became basically impossible to get. Some of my favorite powders are still available. Some of my molds for casting projectiles now are going for a lot on eBay these days as well. I see that new Lee 12 guage shotgun slug molds are currently selling for $55. They were $19 not long ago. I am tempted to sell some of this stuff while the Biden shadow is still hanging over our heads and the price is high.


42 posted on 11/16/2020 9:49:22 AM PST by fireman15
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To: baclava

***A 20 rd box of 30-30? $99.99***

I got a coffee can full of reloads! May keep them for a “rainy day”. Also found three boxes of Federal .22 LR I forgot I had. They may be 40 years old. That year Federal quality was not good.

Alas, no .223 except a few reloads for a super accurate bolt action rifle.

M2 Ball, I wish I had back the 400 rounds I burned up this early Spring. I’m on blood thinners and they do bruise my shoulder.

I may have to do some reloading, in 55 year old brass cases the way things are going.

I remember shooting up WW II nazi ammo back in 1968. Alas it was so corrosive it messed up my pistol bad.


43 posted on 11/16/2020 9:50:32 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: LibWhacker

Got a couple bottles of Jack I can trade. Uh, disinfectant I meant.


44 posted on 11/16/2020 9:50:38 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Patriot_MP

***Hot Pants Harris, well...I can’t say it here***

Ever wonder what would have happened if SHE had been VP for Bill Clinton?


45 posted on 11/16/2020 9:52:34 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Hazwaste

Hoping next year ain’t 2020.2 but it ain’t looking good.


46 posted on 11/16/2020 9:52:44 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: alternatives?

How about a Groucho Marx pair of glasses and mustache? No?


47 posted on 11/16/2020 9:53:47 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Every day would have been Wednesday. LOL! New meaning for the term “Vice” president.


48 posted on 11/16/2020 9:57:30 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

Hi.

I apologise in advance...

If you don’t have weapons, ammo and other stores by now, you haven’t paid attention to the last 12 years.

By now you should be totally acquainted with and comfortable with your weapons. Wether a K-Bar or a M-60, you have familiarized yourself with basic operation and cleaning. You have zeroed the weapon, tactically practiced with it and have learned some small arm squad tactics.

You will also need like minded friends.

I could go on, but I don’t want to bore you.

Bloat.

5.56mm


49 posted on 11/16/2020 10:05:15 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: Vermont Lt

one BILLION with a B dollars in back orders. Plus of course this ammo “crisis” has been going on mostly non-stop for 8 years.

Frankly all these companies who haven’t expanded are just Fing stupid. They’ve blown a clear opportunity. And they KEEP blowing it. The company that builds up to be able to fulfill that back orders in under a month will own the market.


50 posted on 11/16/2020 10:08:00 AM PST by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: M Kehoe

We good. Friends are good. Up hill, down hill, to the east but not sure about the western front.


51 posted on 11/16/2020 10:09:45 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

Send a spy and a decoy to the Western front to determine threat.

8^)

5.56mm


52 posted on 11/16/2020 10:13:37 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: discostu

So you build a $300 million dollar factory. Add a hundred million dollars in resources and staff per year.

Your profitability on THAT factory is going to be marginal in an environment that is detrimental to your business.

That is about as short sighted a financial plan as you are going to hear.


53 posted on 11/16/2020 10:17:41 AM PST by Vermont Lt (We have entered "Insanity Week." Act accordingly.)
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To: chrisser

It isn’t even hitting the wholesalers.

But it is being made and sold.


54 posted on 11/16/2020 10:26:25 AM PST by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian )
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To: M Kehoe

The only common caliber that I do not reload is 5.56. You have to use copper jacketed projectiles to protect your barrel. There is a system now available these days for swaging your own copper jacketed 5.56 bullets however. It costs a lot compared to what I paid for most of my molds and dyes but considering the popularity of 5.56 and possible difficulties procuring factory built cartridges in the future, it would probably be worth it for many people.

Blackmon Swaging System

Last of a series of videos on the process.

https://youtu.be/hJz7byz8QoE

https://bulletswagingsupply.com/BULLET%20SWAGING%20SUPPLY%208.5x11.pdf


55 posted on 11/16/2020 10:32:45 AM PST by fireman15
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To: Vermont Lt

Not to mention the social pressure to shut down ammo makers. Hard to get you grandkids into an ivy if you run an ammo maker


56 posted on 11/16/2020 10:42:11 AM PST by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian )
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To: oldasrocks

Buy a mold. Make your own..reliad


57 posted on 11/16/2020 10:54:41 AM PST by magyars4 (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Clark Brothers or Greentop?


58 posted on 11/16/2020 10:56:45 AM PST by magyars4 (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men!)
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To: Vermont Lt

No it’s not. Your own math shows you’re wrong. With a billion in additional sales that new factory clear $600 million profit the first year. Now your factory is paid for, and you’ve still got the billion in sales a year PLUS whatever else they’re doing. That’s $900 million a year in cleared profit.

The short sighted financial plan is YOURS. This shortage has been going on for nearly a DECADE. But cowards and idiots keep thinking it’s gonna fix itself so they aren’t increasing capacity. The long view is America and the world love they’re freaking bullets, nobody has EVER gone broke in that market while making an even decent product. INCREASE CAPACITY. Nobody in the market should have gone past the first year of the shortage without building up. Any shortage that doesn’t correct in 6 months is going to last, that’s a change in demand, not a surge.


59 posted on 11/16/2020 10:57:34 AM PST by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: rktman

“I had planned on doing an inventory this week.”

I polish the brass on all three of my bullets at least once a week.


60 posted on 11/16/2020 11:00:57 AM PST by moovova
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