‘BREATHTAKING ABUSE’: Republican Attorneys General file amicus brief urging SCOTUS to rule on Pennsylvania mail-in ballots

https://thegreggjarrett.com ^ | by Jarrett Staff November 11, 2020

[maggief]

Ron @CodeMonkeyZ Why does the Dominion Voting System user manual say to not enter a password? Why are they using digital certificates without passwords?

8:47 AM · Nov 11, 2020

[Jane Long]

Yep...just watched Rudy, on Warroom ...great news, about the Dominion eyewitnesses.

Warroom has on another great attorney, on now, discussing witnesses/affidavits that they have...direct evidence...in MI...and, concurs w/Rudy, that the same methods of suppressing the REPUB watchers, were used, across the country.

[Gene Eric]

>> the cornerstone of our Republic

Correct, our Republic.

[InterceptPoint]

The Supreme Court Justices are in a real bind here. However they vote, for or against the rule of law, they will be establishing a precedent that will affect vote counting in all future federal elections.

They can vote in favor of the PA Governor’s 3 day corruption favoring extension and that will become the universal policy for states with Dem governors in future elections.

Expect the 3 Dem Justices and very likely Justice Roberts to vote in favor of that rewriting of PA law and, in effect, the U.S. Constitution.

Will the other 5 Justices vote for upholding the law? I’m hopeful but certainly not confident.

[Red Badger]

They will uphold the ‘Rule of Law’ and not of men...............

[Rusty0604]

That’s what I think. Rights, in this case State rights, should not take precedence over other’s rights. That’s not just.

[jmclemore]

example

I voted in Kansas. my vote was received and recorded legally. My right to vote was honored. Pennsylvanians, on the other hand, can not be certain that their voting rights were honored or protected understate law due to the suspicious tactics being used in democratic precincts.

The only People outside of Pennsylvania that are directly affected are other States who are constitutionally entitled to an equal playing field and the candidates themselves.

Candidates should be challenging this in state courts. Governors should be pressuring congress and SCOTUS to compel those states to answer concerns and correct errors.

Seriously, the only practical remedy would be to disqualify votes where they were counted.

For example: Philadelphia

I say its the only remedy because it would not only preserve the votes of all voters outside of Philadelphia, it would protect all voters in Philadelphia by becoming a 1 for 1 cancellation of legitimate votes (they are not lost - it simply acknowledges what happens anyway). The remaining votes are the only votes that would effectively be lost/deleted/disqualified/etc.

it's that simple. It's math. the only people who lose their vote will be those of the cheating party.

[cazmandeuce]

If true, this is great to hear.

[MrChips]

And what if they can’t separate those ballots, all ballots having been jumbled up together? Would that not negate the whole PA election in the eyes of the Court?

[mmichaels1970]

And what if they can’t separate those ballots, all ballots having been jumbled up together? Would that not negate the whole PA election in the eyes of the Court?

That's what I wonder as well. I suppose it depends on how seriously SCOTUS takes it when their orders are ignored. I don't know that they WERE ignored, but hypothetically I wonder.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Love it!

[The Antiyuppie]

“ My right to vote was honored.”

You may have voted for candidate X, but is was ‘dishonored” by an illegal vote in another state for candidate Y. Effectively, your vote did not count. In a bananna republic, there is also “free and fair”voting. After voting, all votes are thrown in the garbage.

[jmclemore]

Only if you ignore the electoral college. Your vote was challenged by voters in your state. Of course cheating effects us all. But, the only voters directly affected are those who legally cast ballots in the state where cheating took place. Again, example, I voted in Kansas and my vote was collected, counted and was not exposed to cheating. Voters in Philadelphia are skrewed. They have no certainty their ballot added to the total of their candidate or was flipped to the opponent. Again, this topic was about standing. You can’t sue someone who cheated your neighbor on a bad deal. But, a state can sue another neighboring state for not securing credibility of their presidential election.

[Dilbert56]

Similar issues to Bush v. Gore

State legislatures are empowered by the Constitution to determine how the electors will be chosen. If, however, a state chooses to have an election, all kinds of laws apply. The Bush v. Gore turned on unequal treatment under the law. Selectively recounting only certain counties meant some voters would have more of a chance of having their votes count. SCOFLA even asked the Gore lawyer if he really only wanted some counties, probably anticipating what was to happen.

SCOTUS said the Florida constitution and laws are overruled by the Constitution when it comes to federal elections. The only remedy allowable under the decision was to recount every vote with a clear, consistent set of standards. It was way too late in the process for that. If a court's ruling put the state's certification outside the "safe harbor" deadline, and the laws were written to take advantage of safe harbor, then the courts were in effect legislating, not interpreting.

Pennsylvania has some interesting parallels.

• The people who voted in person had their votes subject to a different, harsher set of rules. Their identities were verified and spoiled ballots were tossed. The mail ins weren't check by signature verification
• Added to that some counties opened and fixed incorrect ballots while others followed the law and excluded their invalid ones. More unequal treatment under the law
• Separately, the accepting of ballots after November 3rd at 8PM is an egregious violation of the law as written

The remedy part should be difficult at best. If the mail-ins were unfairly given more leeway, the right thing would be to go back an apply the same scrutiny. The counties that fixed invalid ballots by letting people know and giving them a chance to vote in person is probably something that can't be fixed. Unless there would be a way to identify the 2nd chance ballots and remove them from the count. The ballots received after the deadline may be possible to exclude if there are controls to verify the election boards actually segregated them as ordered.

We in PA could end up with a vote that can't be certified. What a tumult when the legislature steps in. All the people who have been celebrating for weeks will be faced with four more years of PDJT (if GA also flips).

[Bikkuri]

[zeugma]

You may have voted for candidate X, but is was ‘dishonored” by an illegal vote in another state for candidate Y. Effectively, your vote did not count. In a bananna republic, there is also “free and fair”voting. After voting, all votes are thrown in the garbage.

I see your point, but would argue against it by pointing out that votes in individual states are self-contained because of the way the electoral college works. One of the stupid bitches about the EC is that a vote by a person in Wyoming effectively has more weight than a person in California. While this statement is technically true, it was also exactly the intended result.

[The Antiyuppie]

“I see your point, but would argue against it by pointing out that votes in individual states are self-contained because of the way the electoral college works. One of the stupid bitches about the EC is that a vote by a person in Wyoming effectively has more weight than a person in California. While this statement is technically true, it was also exactly the intended result. “

True about the electoral college, but then the potential injury is to all of the Trump voters in my state (that went for trump so overwhelmingly that there can’t be any mistake about it), whose electors could be negated by a cheating state. This just moves the “wrong” up a level.

Excuse the e.e. cummings style I am on a phone.

[Lowell1775]

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BREATHTAKING ABUSE’: Republican Attorneys General file amicus brief urging SCOTUS to rule on Pennsylvania mail-in ballots
https://thegreggjarrett.com ^ | by Jarrett Staff November 11, 2020
Posted on 11/11/2020, 10:05:05 AM by Red Badger

[DrewsMum]

Have they ruled yet that they don’t?

I mean SCOTUS needs to set a precedent here and PA is perfect storm to do that.

[jpp113]

No one should forget that Michigan has, and probably Wisconsin has, this same unconstitutional ballot return deadline problem..thats where the 4 am dumps were. A ruling in favor of the PA RSC in the USSC would be precedent for those other states with that issue.