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To: LS

There is one factor you are missing: the US was not Nazis.

The brutality of the Nazi occupation of Russia doomed Germany. The Russians liked nothing better than getting rid of Stalin. Given half a chance the Russians would have let us do the job. But we gave no impression we wanted to except for Patton.


19 posted on 11/10/2020 6:21:33 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
The brutality of the Nazi occupation of Russia doomed Germany.

Agree. IF the Germans had embraced the Ukrainians and others it would have made a significant difference in the Eastern Theater.

38 posted on 11/10/2020 6:55:57 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

The Soviets weren’t going to leave unless pushed out, period.

There is NO WW II historian, including Victor Davis Hanson, who would say otherwise. The Soviets only peacefully left two places: Austria, where, when Austrians threatened to pull down a statue of (I forget, either Lenin or Stalin) the Soviets threatened to come in again; and Iran, where Truman threatened them with the bomb.

They had 200 DIVISIONS. We had a total of 86 in both the European and Asian theaters. In 1946 the US wanted the troops home asap. Even Stephen Ambrose, in his book “Band of Brothers,” noted that for the first time in the war, American soldiers started to become interested in medals and decorations because transfer to the Pacific Front was a point system toward which medals counted. Enough decorations, they wouldn’t transfer you.


59 posted on 11/10/2020 7:53:36 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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