Posted on 11/09/2020 3:30:14 AM PST by TigerClaws
We want courts to order audits of the results.
This document breaks down step by step what is done in each county when that process begins.
Just checking voter registrations against who voted against the social security death records might flip Michigan.
https://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/Post_Election_Audit_Manual_418482_7.pdf
You don’t need to audit the entire state, just Detroit. Make them produce the same number of absentee outer envelopes for independent examination as they have votes. They are required to retain them until the election has been certified.
Then we can look at those outer envelopes and see if they even have signatures, if so, then if the names were validly registered voters, and finally a random sample of those voters to ask them if they really did vote by mail.
There should be a list of who was mailed a ballot. Also, each ballot has a serial number that while it cannot be traced back to the individual voter, it can be traced to see if it was actually mailed, or if it ended up being surplus and should be stored somewhere. In other words, list A is a list of all voters who were sent a ballot, and list B is a list of all ballots mailed. They had better be the same number. Then there should be a list C of excess ballots, and they should be produced for examination.
If you want to steal an election, with a typical turnout of 50-60%, all you need to do is wait until the polls close. Then you have a list of everybody who voted in person, and you already have a list of everybody who received a mail-in ballot.
That leaves a list of registered voters who didn’t vote. Now you have a list of names from which you can ‘manufacture’ fake votes but make them look legitimate.
But the envelopes won’t have valid signatures on them, and THAT is what poll watchers in key precincts such as Philly and Detroit were prevented from observing.
Yes. Audit the counties where fraud has been shown.
But auditing the entire state may give political cover as the race card will surely be played in the corrupt counties.
What happened here is they had a normal amount of vote theft set up but Trump got more votes than any candidate in history - surpassing Obama in 2008. They hit the pause button to buy time to make up even more ballots. But they were paying people based on the number of ballots they brought in. So people printed every name they could - including the dead people still registered.
It won’t be particularly difficult to find the fraud.
“Audit the counties where fraud has been shown.”
I was half listening to a pundit yesterday who said (I think) that Gore requested that only certain areas in FL should be audited. The ruling was against him — that audits couldn’t be cherry-picked, so they had to do the entire state. I could be totally wrong, but that’s how I interpreted it.
Can’t be done. Gore vs Bu-Sh. All must be audited. The good news is the counties without problems will be an easy audit. Starting with those with problems as long as partial reports are allowed will justify the process. My suggestion is state legislators require all and starts with Detroit and Lansing.
The met Saturday. Both house and senate are controlled by R
Exactly right.
I voted for Trump here and I want a recount of the entire state. After what happened in Antrim county and esp in Rochester Hills, how do I know my vote was counted for Trump?
And Detroit is a small subset of the greater Detroit area, so how much of it do you want audited?
Rochester Hills is a suburb of Detroit for instance.
Ann Arbor is worse. Also Kalamazoo is flaming liberal.
Do this in Illinois! We’re long past due for a housecleaning. Expose the corruption!
It isn’t just Detroit.
Look at Kent Co. (Grand Rapids)
2016
Trump 148,180 48.08%
Clinton 138,683 45.00%
3p 21,321 4.92%
308,184
2020
Trump 165,318 45.9%
Biden 186,753 51.9%
3p 7,844 2.2%
359,915
Nationwide, about 30% of 3rd party losses have gone Trump but assume he got 0.
Statewide turnout +10%
Kent +17%
Trump vote +10%
Dem vote +35%
Dem + 3p vote +21.6% NOT THE HELL LIKELY
If you give Clinton the 14K 3rd party loss 100% Not Likely
186K/152K: +22% STILL NOT LIKELY
3rd split 30/70 T/B
186K/148K: +25.7%
186K - 148K - 15K(+10% turnout) = 23K suspicious DEM votes
Good idea, but probably won’t happen. The skunks have been in power too long.
Thanks for that informative post, Yo-Yo!
In 2016 there was a huge third party vote for the Green Party from Democrats who couldn't stand sHrillary.
It's not unexpected for them to come home for Harris (and Biden.)
Likewise, this year there was a relatively large third party vote for the Libertarian Party as a protest vote against PDJT.
Yo-Yo, can they find if Trump votes were destroyed?
Was there any shenanigans with the Kent County canvass blocking Republican poll watchers? I didn’t hear of any, but they could have been overshadowed by Detroit locking the doors and covering the windows crap.
A secret ballot is a secret ballot. The most you can do is to determine if a mail in ballot was counted or not, and who it was supposedly from. You cannot determine how any individual voter voted.
See Kent Co. (Grand Rapids) post #10.
In fact, go down the county list and look for the big moves. It isn’t Wayne, at least not any more than 2016. The new fraud above the 2016 baseline is elsewhere.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-michigan.html
Notice that only a few big blue counties move by much, but not the big city. (You can also find an outlier or 2 in the small counties.)
Just like in PA, the fraud above baseline is outside Philly. I assume Detroit and Philly have the same fraud every election, all they dare do, so it does not show up comparing 2020 to 2016
Yes but was making a point pair the worse with one of the lessers
Then pair Kalamazoo up with another
And Ann Arbor with another.
So it doesn’t appear we’re targeting just “corrupt”.total-blue areas
Yeah, I am not buying that for Grand Rapids in 2020. It is a hugely Christian area.
I knew a woman who moved from there to Traverse and said she was relieved to finally live somewhere that didn’t shame her for not being a Christian.
Good catch.
The entire state needs a recount.
Did you see the results from the recount in 2016? Some voters were able to vote for Hillary six times. Quite a lot of the recount was unable to be done because they found more voters than votes.
https://www.courthousenews.com/city-clerk-in-michigan-faces-election-fraud-charges/
https://time.com/4599886/detroit-voting-machine-failures-were-widespread-on-election-day/
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