Posted on 11/08/2020 5:49:10 PM PST by dynachrome
I’m with ya !
Screw vaccines !
Ah yes, the uneducated nonbelievers in science of FR.
The reason I said ‘published” is because that makes it peer reviewed. I know you don’t understand this but in order to be published and to undergo peer review, validation is required. Its the way good science works.
But then you wouldn’t know about those things. You’re still in the dark ages of scientific method, sadly.
NYS has it admitted that it counts repeat positives of the same patient as new cases.
This was NEVER about public health.
Because this isn’t about public health.
It’s about controlling the public.
More young people in NYS are dying from GSWs and MVAs than are dying from WuFlu.
What’s your position? Specimen processing? Phone person?
When you refuse a vaccine you put others in danger.
But actually I like those stories where someone said this virus is a hoax or just a bad cold and then dies from it a few days later. There have been so many lately.
So no. I am not in favor of mandatory vaccination.
I do think if you refuse vaccines in a pandemic there should be consequences, perhaps staying home and leaving a hospital bed for someone who was willing to be vaccinated and had noncovid health issues.
After all, it’s not that deadly, right? So you don’t need medical help when you can’t breathe.
How about these studies?
“Another JAMA Cardiology study used cardiac MRIs on 100 people who had recovered from COVID-19 within the past two to three months. Researchers found abnormalities in the hearts of 78% recovered patients and “ongoing myocardial inflammation” in 60%. The same study found high levels of the blood enzyme troponin, an indicator of heart damage, in 76% of patients tested, although heart function appeared to be generally preserved. Most patients in the study had not required hospitalization”
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2020/09/03/what-covid-19-is-doing-to-the-heart-even-after-recovery
Here are some survivors.
“In a June paper, he and his team analysed clinical details for 125 people in the United Kingdom with COVID-19 who had neurological or psychiatric effects. Of these, 62% had experienced damage to the brain’s blood supply, such as strokes and haemorrhages, and 31% had altered mental states, such as confusion or prolonged unconsciousness — sometimes accompanied by encephalitis, the swelling of brain tissue. Ten people who had altered mental states developed psychosis.”
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02599-5
I just detest rude people who overvalue their own importance. As you did.
I have had docs come to the lab to ask me questions and request help for some 40 years.
Be careful next time you assume the person you are talking to is below you in education or intelligence.
I attended catholic grades chools in Detroit until finally my parents had to pull me and send me to a school for the gifted. I aced organic chem and loved calculus in college. I have even thought of going back online now, in my old age, just for the fun of studying science.
Maybe you should give education a try yourself. Do you want to be a lab assistant your entire life?
I am nearing retirement and it will be excellent, *because* of what I earned.
These studies are being done in countries around the world and they are all seeing the same things. It has nothing to do with Harvard. But hey they survived!
“Everybody talks about a binary situation, you either get it mild and recover quickly, or you get really sick and wind up in the ICU,” says Akrami, who falls into neither category. Thousands echo her story in online COVID-19 support groups. Outpatient clinics for survivors are springing up, and some are already overburdened. Akrami has been waiting more than 4 weeks to be seen at one of them, despite a referral from her general practitioner.
“The list of lingering maladies from COVID-19 is longer and more varied than most doctors could have imagined. Ongoing problems include fatigue, a racing heartbeat, shortness of breath, achy joints, foggy thinking, a persistent loss of sense of smell, and damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys, and brain.”
I just detest rude people who overvalue their own importance. As you did.
Then you said this:
I have had docs come to the lab to ask me questions and request help for some 40 years.
And this:
I attended catholic grades chools[sic]in Detroit until finally my parents had to pull me and send me to a school for the gifted. I aced organic chem and loved calculus in college. I have even thought of going back online now, in my old age, just for the fun of studying science.
And this from a previous reply:
Oh. And I took graduate classes in immunology at UMSL. While I was working in biotech, doing cell culture. I also worked in vaccine research for Bristol Myer Squibb in the 90s,along with making monoclonal antibodies and developing assays to test them.
And prior to that I worked for Monsanto in assay development. Later returned to hospital labs, and in a recent position I was the head of chemistry. In two positions I was completely responsible for bringing new chemistry analyzers on board. I have been to Roche, Abbott, and Siemens.
You must really detest yourself.
Poor lab assistant. Have a nice life.
Like I said disabilities and abnormalities are not deaths.
PPI Use Tied to Increased Risk of Severe or Fatal COVID-19 Outcome in Meta-Analysis
All the people I know who got the COVID and were treated with Hydroxychloriquine, zinc and the anti-biotic had no ill effects - no lung issues, no heart issues, nothing.
This is a sad place. You really believe the things you are saying here, or like Shethink, fail to do anything but level personal attacks.
Good luck.
When you refuse a vaccine you put others in danger. But actually I like those stories where someone said this virus is a hoax or just a bad cold and then dies from it a few days later. There have been so many lately.
But here’s her contradictory response about forced vaccinations:
So no. I am not in favor of mandatory vaccination. I do think if you refuse vaccines in a pandemic there should be consequences, perhaps staying home and leaving a hospital bed for someone who was willing to be vaccinated and had noncovid health issues.
So I’m not gonna force you to get this vaccination, but if you don’t there will be consequences, like being denied medical treatment. Isn’t that the definition of “forced”?
I know what a virus is, I know what a bacteria is, and I know how they are spread and how they are not spread. I know that the immune system is much more trustworthy if it is attended to correctly and beefed up by itself without waiting for a vaccine that more chances than not will interfere with the body's own immune system. Most people don't even know what a virus is. They are not some weird intrusion to our bodies. No, our bodies actually make them. All biologic systems make them for their own immunological defense. They are made specifically to destroy bacteria. Our body makes viruses.
What we have in COVID is a specially lab created coronavirus (with a patent) designed to induce a sudden, acute, respiratory syndrome. Problem is it was not as deadly as they had planned. They were looking for something as deadly as the Spanish Flu, which was actually a bacterial pneumonia, that killed between 50 to 100 million people world-wide. COVID did not turn out the way they had hoped, but it sure did have a media presence. And we are all jacked up by the media to fear it when it has a 99.8% survival rate.
I have done my homework.
But buried in this article is a very significant admission about the nature of Covid:
Consistently, multinational studies are showing an association, not necessarily causation, but an association" between PPI use and COVID-19, Dr. Brennan Spiegel of David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA and Cedars-Sinai, in Los Angeles, who wasn't involved in the study, noted in a phone interview with Reuters Health.
"This isn't necessarily surprising," he noted, as these medicines have been linked to increased risk of intestinal infections. "That's been shown many times and there's really no controversy about that anymore and COVID is an intestinal infection. It uses the GI tract to gain a foothold in the body and anything that we do to give it better access to the intestinal system, it makes sense that things could get worse and that's basically what we're seeing."
Get that? COVID is an INTESTINAL INFECTION, not a RESPIRATORY INFECTION. Which is what I have been saying since the beginning of this. It is spread through the fecal-oral route, not by people walking through Walmart without a mask. You’re more at risk of COVID if you use the restrooms there. That’s why all the outbreaks are among those in enclosed spaces where eating, drinking and bathroom/sewage systems are shared (ie nursing homes, navy ships, the Diamond Princess, family homes, college dorms, etc)
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