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Top NM Democrat says CD2 will be redrawn : (Screw New Mexico voters, lets gerrymander all Republicans out!)
Albuquerque Journal ^ | 11/6/20 | Susan Montoya Bryan (AP)

Posted on 11/06/2020 8:50:43 AM PST by brownwill6767

A day after Republicans won back New Mexico’s only conservative-leaning congressional district, a top state Democrat said its boundaries will be redrawn in redistricting that will be guided by super majorities in the Democrat-controlled Legislature.

New Mexico House Speaker Brian Egolf, an architect of the state’s progressive Democratic wing, made the announcement Wednesday after GOP nominee Yvette Herrell beat Democratic U.S. House Rep. Xochitl Torres Small in part because of a Republican turnout surge in the 2nd Congressional District.

“So this is the last election for New Mexico’s 2nd Congressional District with a map that looks like it looks now,” Egolf said. “So next time it’ll be a different district and we’ll have to see what that means for Republican chances to hold it.”

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State Republican Party Chairman Steve Pearce criticized the plan and suggested that Egolf should instead focus on New Mexico’s dismal educational outcomes, lack of jobs and economic opportunities, crime rates and other problems.

“All he can think about are political tricks to make sure his weak candidates can win a district where Republicans are already outnumbered,” Pearce said.

The sprawling district borders Mexico, stretches from remote western ranches to oil pump jacks near Texas and has been won by Democrats only twice in four decades. The Democratic incumbents failed both times to win reelection.

1 posted on 11/06/2020 8:50:43 AM PST by brownwill6767
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To: brownwill6767; Impy

If true, Herrell can start working on getting elected to the Senate.


2 posted on 11/06/2020 9:00:22 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: brownwill6767

This communist filth really should not be pushing that right now.

The Rats failed to flip a single State legislative chamber nationwide. Zero. The GOP kept everything that it had (expanding on majorities) AND picked up NH.

The GOP controls far more of redistricting than the Rats do. Many Rats States are now stuck with a Commission as well. (Virginia).

If the rats want to play hardball there, it is going to get very ugly for them.

Texas, Florida and Ohio are going to look very, very ugly for the Rats.


3 posted on 11/06/2020 9:01:22 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: TexasGurl24

Voters elected Republican Supreme Court Justices so Right now Democrats have 5-4 majority, I believe. Previously, it was 8-1.


4 posted on 11/06/2020 9:03:51 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: brownwill6767

The Supreme Court will not allow this power grab.


5 posted on 11/06/2020 9:06:12 AM PST by tennmountainman ( Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: brownwill6767

When Republican legislators draw a map which favors their party by even 1% in a state, the Rats howl in protest, shop for a corrupt Democrat judge (REAL hard to find one of those, I’m sure) and he/she/it demands that a new hyper-partisan map be drawn to favor Democrats.

OTOH, there have been no recorded instances in U.S. history of a judge overturning a *Democrat-drawn* map purely for partisan reasons.

Will Republicans finally grow a pair and play the game the same way? That’s good for a laugh. If they had done so during this past decade, obvious partisan Democrat gerrymanders in states such as Illinois, California, Maryland, Arizona and probably others might have been reversed. But did Republicans even TRY in any of those states?

I guess when you’re used to just bending over and taking it for decades and decades, you forget how to stand up.


6 posted on 11/06/2020 9:07:17 AM PST by PermaRag (WANTED: millions of patriotic gun owners who are willing to trade bullets for freedom)
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To: tennmountainman

It’s their right. Harrell will not beat the rat in 24. He’s too young and pretty. Those things matter.


7 posted on 11/06/2020 9:09:01 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: brownwill6767

There is only ONE Republican district in NM. So to gerrymander it out, you would have to move a bunch of Republicans into the “safe” Dem districts. It could easily backfire once they don’t have Orange Man to hate any more.


8 posted on 11/06/2020 9:09:56 AM PST by Mr. Rabbit
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To: TexasGurl24

“Many Rats States are now stuck with a Commission as well. (Virginia).”

Many nominally Republicans states are as well: PA and FL are the newest ones on that list.

Non-partisan (ha) or bi-partisan (ha) “commissions” will favor the Democrats something along the lines of 100% of the time.

For the absolute best example of that from this past decade, ask someone in the Arizona GOP. California — get this — is also redistricted in a “non-partisan” fashion. Anyone gullible enough to believe in impartial Commission redistricting should probably avoid persons who are selling swampland or bridges.


9 posted on 11/06/2020 9:11:42 AM PST by PermaRag (WANTED: millions of patriotic gun owners who are willing to trade bullets for freedom)
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To: brownwill6767

Rats today are trying to steal my IA-2. The open, but previously Rat seat was won by 384 votes with 100% of vote in election night. Now they appear to be changing or adding 546 votes for the Rat in one precinct in Jasper County (Newton area). GOP had won that county with 57% and the purported change represents nearly 3% of the total county vote. I don’t yet know more details. There’s supposed to be a press conference with GOP SOS right now. Given the national context and the general Rat house panic over their lousy results I’m presuming fraud.


10 posted on 11/06/2020 9:16:14 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch.)
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To: TexasGurl24

Gerrymandering is a short-term panacea, in many cases. In 2010, districts looked good for republicans, but then shifts in population took place, and in some cases, the desire to carve out as many “slightly republican” districts as possible left us with a lot of “slightly democrat” districts.

You can concede a few seats, and make your republican districts more solidly republican, and minimize the risks of losing those, but if you do too much, you give away seats for margins, and you also can lead to internal party fights, as a “clearly republican” district will be more prone to fringe candidates fighting in the primary, which sometimes leads to a candidate so bad that the democrats actually pull off a win.


11 posted on 11/06/2020 9:19:22 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: PermaRag

How about you actually look at the language of the Virginia Commission? It gives the minority party (the GOP) defacto veto power over the map. The minority party legislators on the commission have to agree with any of the maps drawn, or they don’t go for a vote.

If there is no agreement, the Virginia Supreme Court draws the maps, and the Virginia Supreme Court is 5-2 GOP.

Nice try.


12 posted on 11/06/2020 9:21:20 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: brownwill6767

I thought the SC said at one time you couldn’t do this...


13 posted on 11/06/2020 9:23:18 AM PST by cherry
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To: brownwill6767

bookmark


14 posted on 11/06/2020 9:23:23 AM PST by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: PermaRag

People don’t understand statistics. If a state is 55% republican, they argue that 45% of districts should be won by democrats. But if your voters were randomly spread out, and you randomly drew your districts, a 55/45 split would lead to an 80-90% republican representation; because it takes a large skew from the “norm” for a 55/45 split to come out 49.9/50.1.

Gerrymandering, and the meddling courts for “majority-minority” districts, are the only reason the district wins come CLOSE to mirroring what the electorate has supported.

And in fact, gerrymandering actually makes people happy, because done right, more people are represented by canddiates they voted for. If your state is 52% republican, and you are perfect at it, you could draw districts such that every district has a 52% republican winner, but if you draw a bunch of 60% republican districts, leaving a few 60% democrat districts, then 60% of the people have representatives they like, instead of only 52%.


15 posted on 11/06/2020 9:23:56 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: PermaRag

Also, Florida does NOT have a Redistricting Commission and Pennsylvania only has one for State Legislative maps, not for Federal maps.


16 posted on 11/06/2020 9:24:33 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: brownwill6767

40% of Oregonians voted for Trump. But due to gerrymandering, the Dems have a supermajority in the state legislature.


17 posted on 11/06/2020 9:25:04 AM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: PermaRag

With the overall vote being 67% democrat, and 33% republican, it would not be outside the statistical probability for NO republicans to win, if you drew random districts. Remember, if your districts AND voters were randomly assigned, the AVERAGE district would be 67/33 democrat. In order to get to 49.9/50.1 republican, you’d have to be off the average by 17%. Which is a major deviation.

In order to get republican seats, you NEED the commission to take into account a desire for republicans to have some representation. And before 2018, we had a 73/26 split, not much different than the 67/33 vote. 2018 was a bad year, leaving us 86/13. This year might get us back to 79/21.


18 posted on 11/06/2020 9:33:08 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: brownwill6767
Go Pound Sand NM.

When redistricting kicks in, NY, RI, NY, MN, MI, IL, CA each lose a seat.

I've seen predictions both TX and FL get 2 more seats, OR, AZ, and NC pick up a seat.

19 posted on 11/06/2020 9:50:36 AM PST by 11th_VA (Democracy dies in darkness)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The Democrat Assembly in New Jersey redrew the districts after the last census. Since that time we have lost three Republican Congressional seats to the rats. They redrew so that rural areas (Republican) would be overwhelmed by urban rat areas. As far as they are concerned it worked great and they are going to redraw the remaining Republican districts next year to make us extinct.


20 posted on 11/06/2020 10:06:48 AM PST by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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