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To: enumerated

All these things are very true.
Getting Jewish support is more than being pro-Israel.
For one thing, the Jewish community doesn’t really trust the Christian community.
Another is there is a fundamental belief in the Jewish community to support those in need.

That points to “minorities” which then points to “liberals”.

Reagan made great leaps with the Jewish community but the Bush family set us back probably 40 years.
The Obama Presidency made Israel fear that all of the USA was going to abandon them.

Hillary was their plan to continue the path to a liberal thinking “Middle East Peace” thinking.

When Trump won, it shook Israel up as they didn’t know what to expect and since they get much of their news from NYT-WP, they really thought the USA was gone as a supporter.

Slowly they began to suspect that maybe they were wrong and were being lied to by the Democrat Party.

It will take probably another 50 years for the Jewish community to reliably support Republicans but it will take strong leadership in addition to Trump.


34 posted on 11/01/2020 1:48:08 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Zathras

“...there is a fundamental belief in the Jewish community to support those in need. That points to “minorities” which then points to “liberals”.”

But that is only true if they believe that the Democrats’ brand of “liberalism”, which is really Marxism in disguise, is the best solution for helping the needy and underserved minorities - when it is NOT!!

Why can’t Jews, possessing above-average intelligence, see through the Democrats’ thin disguise?


38 posted on 11/01/2020 2:17:59 PM PST by enumerated
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To: Zathras

I was amazed the change in Israel. Israel was founded by socialist Jews (Kibbutzniks, Labour Party). For long time, it was run by the Labour, in socialist ways, and as a result, Israel was actually quite poor.
Now, thanks to Begin and Netanyahu, the Labour party is practically gone. Israel seems now divided mostly between moderate conservatives and ultra conservatives. Having freed the economy, it is actually becoming pretty innovative and rich!
While we point to Venezuela and Cuba to show the Socialist disasters, we should look to changes in Israel too.


45 posted on 11/01/2020 3:21:34 PM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: Zathras

You are very right.

Trump actually revolutionized the Middle East situation!
Forever, we were fed this “Middle East Peace”, “land for Peace” folly. It never went anywhere!
Basically because the Palestinians (at least a lot of them) do not want the State of Israel exist in any form. Even if it shrunk to a square mile, they will protest and fight it. When Clinton forced the peace deal, Hamas started intifada. They do not want peace deal.
What Trump is doing is depriving the Palestinians of the support by their Arabic brethren. If all Arab states normalize relationships with Israel, the Palestinians will have to accept the reality! Like it or not.

Quantum shift from old, tired, Israel-Palestinian land for peace negotiations, going forever, absolutely nowhere, to working around the Palestinians. Very smart, even I would not think about doing it this way!


49 posted on 11/01/2020 3:57:14 PM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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