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Jared Kushner bragged in April that Trump was taking the country 'back from the doctors'
CNN ^ | 10/28/2020 | Michael Warren, Jamie Gangel and Elizabeth Stuart

Posted on 10/28/2020 9:56:32 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: SeekAndFind

Morons look at a simple cherry picked sentence and have zero critical thinking skills. In a broad context,the sentiment of the President was right. Let’s look at our situation right now concerning these doctors,politicians and scientists. Most of them were ALL wrong and had agendas based on BS models and Trump hatred. These same cabal of scum also have contributed to the massive death of seniors. Also,deaths are due to the side effects of societal breakdown and inability to get lifesaving healthcare.Covid actually turned many hospitals into ghost towns waiting for the surge that never came or hospitals only took Covid “cases” to make all of that Fedgov money (EVERYBODY will be labeled a Covid “case”).


21 posted on 10/28/2020 11:01:58 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: volunbeer

Yes, you are preaching to the choir because I am a bureaucrat myself actually (federal employee) and I have seen what you describe: CYA and no decision making. They always want someone else to decide. That’s why the CDC with all those failing tests initially moved so slowly to approve private companies making them instead. They didn’t want to make the “wrong” decision.

I think it’s ironic, because since it is so hard to fire anyone, it’s a good environment to take risks and be bold, actually. That’s the method I use—I watch what happens when I “disobey” my supervisors and if I’m successful and they say nothing (and reward me at performance review time) then I know that those actions speak louder than their stated instructions. (It’s tricky.)


22 posted on 10/28/2020 11:11:53 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: rlmorel

Comments like that used to attract various tin foil images, no more. The conspiracy theorists were right and Alex Jones is riding high! LOL


23 posted on 10/28/2020 11:14:41 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner; a fool in paradise; SeekAndFind; Buckeye McFrog; caww; volunbeer; SecAmndmt; ...
It was discouraging.

You would think (as I naively did) that with all the terrible, shameful, unlawful, disgusting things that came to light in the last four years about the conduct and methods of the DOJ and FBI, that they would be forced to play by the rules, but...how naive was that.

They just doubled down which showed me they think they can depend on the Media to cover for their heinous stonewalling and illegal conduct which now occurs in the light of day, but they simply wave a wand and say we can't discuss it, and the media considers that a done deal.

This is how I see it:

I was not a believer or a disbeliever in the "Deep State"...I was keeping an open mind, or trying to. But when I saw the DOJ and FBI simply trying to run the clock out on the investigation with an eye towards delaying until past the election...well, I have to be a full believer now.

24 posted on 10/28/2020 11:58:51 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Leftism is the plaything of a society with too much time on its hands." - Candace Owens)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Kushner is correct, the country DOES need to be taken back from the doctors.

Doctors think in narrowly focused terms. They are singularly ill-suited to the task of governance.”

And how about this: perhaps we’re not seeing the forest for the trees, which is WE DON’T LIVE IN A TECHNOCRACY RUN BY DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS, WE LIVE IN A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC WITH A GOVERNMENT OF LIMITED POWERS. OF, BY and FOR WE THE PEOPLE.

The Democrats, and some alleged Republicans, want us to be ANYTHING BUT a constitutional republic. And that is why they so desperately hate ACB.

To **** with the doctors. The medical establishment has way too much power.


25 posted on 10/28/2020 12:01:17 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: rlmorel

Corrupt...we know that this is the case with the FBI ,CIA, DOJ etc. So to expect anything other than what we’ve seen and continue to see should not be surprising.

Let then do their work....until the election is over and then hope the crap flies then.


26 posted on 10/28/2020 12:05:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: a fool in paradise

The problem isn’t doctors in general. I’ve never polled your everyday doctor, but I’d be willing to bet that most of them hate masks. No, the problem is a politicized, power hungry public health establishment and licensing boards that can strike fear into the licensed.


27 posted on 10/28/2020 1:04:50 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: rlmorel

Recall too that until the sex charges against Huma’s husband, Huma’s laptop was ignored by the Derp State FIBbers as well. They had it and squashed investigations.


28 posted on 10/28/2020 1:56:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: caww

People think I am not serious, but I am when I say Trump should bring General Flynn back into the fold to kick ass and take names and reform the intelligence agencies.

The FBI and DOJ-if Giuliani were a few years younger, let him go in there and wipe them clean.


29 posted on 10/28/2020 5:28:57 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Leftism is the plaything of a society with too much time on its hands." - Candace Owens)
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To: a fool in paradise

It makes you realize what people will do not to upset the gravy train...


30 posted on 10/28/2020 5:31:09 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Leftism is the plaything of a society with too much time on its hands." - Candace Owens)
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To: rlmorel

There’s very little I can offer regarding Gen.Flynn except awareness he was and continues to get a raw deal. They really want to keep him locked down.

Giuliani has his hands plenty full enough right where he’s at...But I have confidence when the time comes to clean things up the right guy will be appointed....it’ll be a nasty job to do as the crap is so deep.


31 posted on 10/28/2020 5:45:01 PM PDT by caww
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I have looked at the circumstances surrounding him pretty closely (as closely as I can for being a layperson uninvolved with the case and without being accused of not having a life) and what was done to him is just as big as what was done to Trump and his other associates.

If you are interested, I put together a chronological timeline of the Flynn persecution in a spreadsheet format (converted to PDF) that has links, sources, people involved in events, and summary explanations:

Timeline of the General Flynn Persecution

If you download it and look at it, it is easier than looking at it in a web page because you can magnify it easier.

We have some people on this forum who I have respected over the years, but on this, they seem to have some kind of vendetta I don't understand, and think what was done to him was his own fault and that his unlawful persecution was appropriate. I have lost respect in a few of those cases, and I honestly don't understand them.

32 posted on 10/28/2020 6:02:47 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Leftism is the plaything of a society with too much time on its hands." - Candace Owens)
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Thank you..... what I've gathered is it's been pretty dirty all along the way in trying to destroy Flynn. They certainly robbed him of his livelihood, family and anything else they could put their grubby hands on. But that's how they play when they've targeted someone.....they'll take and squash anything you have and own and as much of your life as possible.
33 posted on 10/28/2020 6:14:59 PM PDT by caww
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>>Thank you..... what I’ve gathered is it’s been pretty dirty all along the way in trying to destroy Flynn. They certainly robbed him of his livelihood, family and anything else they could put their grubby hands on. But that’s how they play when they’ve targeted someone.....they’ll take and squash anything you have and own and as much of your life as possible.

Look at the guys they railroaded for Whitey Bulger’s crimes and then ultimately he met a similar fate to Jeffrey Epstein. Killed in prison and nobody knew nothin’. Except someone leaked it to mobsters that he was being transferred and there just so happened to be a window of opportunity to gouge his eyes out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitey_Bulger

ulger provided information about the inner workings of the Patriarca crime family, his Italian-American Mafia rivals based in Rhode Island. In return, Connolly, as Bulger’s FBI handler, ensured that the Winter Hill Gang effectively went ignored.[5][6][7] Beginning in 1997, the news media exposed various criminal misconduct by officials tied to Bulger from federal, state, and local law enforcement. This caused great embarrassment to each of these agencies, but none more so than the FBI.[8][9][10][11]

...Bulger was transferred to several facilities in October 2018; first to the Federal Transfer Center in Oklahoma and then to the United States Penitentiary, Hazelton, near Bruceton Mills, West Virginia.[20] Bulger, who was in a wheelchair, was murdered by inmates on October 30, 2018, within hours of his arrival at Hazelton.[21][22][23]

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/30/howie-carr-muellers-hands-dirty-in-old-fbi-frame-up/

Roger Stone keeps talking about Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s reprehensible behavior with the FBI in Boston way back when.

But I don’t think he or most people understand how bad Mueller’s actions were – “chilling,” is how a Clinton federal judge in 2006 described the former FBI director’s attempts to cover up a massive frame-up by Boston G-men decades earlier.

For the record, Mueller did not railroad four innocent men into prison – two onto death row – for a Chelsea murder they did not commit back in 1965.

That frame job was handled by the Boston office of the FBI, where at one point at least six G-men were taking payoffs from organized crime. That information came from serial killer Stevie Flemmi, who last summer admitted in federal court to taking part in 50 murders...

...This is the world of “law enforcement” that Robert Mueller operated in. Not everyone was crooked – just everyone who mattered.

Fast forward to 2006. Mueller is now the FBI director.

After 35 years in the can, two of the four innocent men are dead, the other two have finally been freed. The four men or their estates are suing the feds for wrongful imprisonment. It is not a frivolous lawsuit – they will eventually win a judgment of $102 million.

The plaintiffs – the victims – are trying to get the necessary information from the crooked FBI now run by Mueller about how they were framed. But Mueller absolutely stonewalls the release of the information...


34 posted on 10/28/2020 7:04:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: a fool in paradise

When they finally found Whitey everyone knew once in police custody it was just a matter of time before he’d be gone. Hey it’s the world they live in.


35 posted on 10/28/2020 7:14:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Some official somewhere blabbed and provided assistance. The odds of random right place right individuals right time etc just don’t happen. Not in a matter of hours.


36 posted on 10/28/2020 7:21:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: caww

You’re welcome. I felt compelled to understand this issue and be sure I wasn’t misrepresenting this issue.

Many laws were broken to illegally persecute President Trump, George Papadopoulos, and Carter Page. Every single person on the Trump campaign, their families, and who they talked to were surveilled illegally by the government.

But General Flynn was persecuted and targeted with a vengeance, because of what he knew of the Intelligence community, the goings-on in the Obama Administration, and specifically his outspoken, vocal criticism of the abortion that was the Iran nuclear deal.

For that, a well regarded military veteran, was illegally set up and attacked by the Obama Administration, the Intelligence Community, the FBI, the DOJ, and it was all done in conjunction with the Media.

It burns my blood, FRiend...

Burns my blood.


37 posted on 10/29/2020 4:12:58 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Leftism is the plaything of a society with too much time on its hands." - Candace Owens)
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