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Judge says Justice Department cannot defend Trump in E. Jean Carroll rape defamation suit
NBC News ^ | October 27, 2020 | Pete Williams and Rebecca Shabad

Posted on 10/27/2020 10:47:44 AM PDT by Coronal

WASHINGTON — A federal judge in New York ruled Tuesday that the Justice Department cannot step in to shield President Donald Trump from a libel lawsuit filed by a woman who claims he raped her in a New York City department store more than 20 years ago.

The Justice Department had sought to block the lawsuit, filed by former gossip columnist E. Jean Carroll, by arguing that the president was acting in his official capacity when he told White House reporters that she made up the rape story.

Carroll sued, claiming that his statements branding her a liar damaged her reputation. Because federal law does not permit suing public officials for libel, the government said, the lawsuit should be dismissed.

But U.S. District Court Judge Lewis Kaplan said in his ruling Tuesday that the government was wrong on two counts. First, he said, the law applies only to federal employees, defined as officers of federal agencies — a description that does not include the president, who is in a different legal status.

Second, the judge said, the president's statements about something that happened more than two decades before are not within the scope of his official conduct.

"President Trump's views on the plaintiff's sexual assault allegation may be interesting to some, but they reveal nothing about the operation of government," Kaplan wrote.

"A comment about government action, public policy, or even an election is categorically different than a comment about an alleged sexual assault that took place roughly twenty years before the president took office," he wrote.

Accepting the government's view, he said, "would mean that a president is free to defame anyone who criticizes his conduct or impugns his character."

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndcircuit; doj; federaljudge; judiciary; lewisakaplan; lewiskaplan; libellawsuit; politicaljudiciary; rapinbilljudge; sdnewyork; sdny; sdnysdnewyork; secondcircuit; trumprape
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To: Theoria
How do you even know it's her?
Looks like Ivana to me.
I have her pic at #37.
Don't look the same to me.
41 posted on 10/27/2020 12:23:54 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Coronal

Carroll was acting in her official capacity as a gossip columnist.


42 posted on 10/27/2020 12:42:57 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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To: zencycler
Very good explanation. Concise and it should be obvious.
43 posted on 10/27/2020 12:46:30 PM PDT by spudville
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To: Coronal

A good time to send it up! :-)


44 posted on 10/27/2020 12:54:17 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: SmokingJoe

GAAAAH! Please provide notice next time you do that!


45 posted on 10/27/2020 12:57:23 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Coronal
E. Jean Carroll young and now:


46 posted on 10/27/2020 12:59:45 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: Coronal

Whatever... This is still a nuisance suit. Defending yourself against your accuser isn’t libel, it’s opinion. There are zero provable facts, so it’s basically he said/she said.

But these dumb ass judges are going to open the floodgates to more nuisance lawsuits because Orange Man Bad. SMH


47 posted on 10/27/2020 1:06:58 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: SgtHooper
CONSIDER YOURSELF WARNED!! ..

..

. . GAAAAH! Pleas provide notice the nex time you do that

The law hasn't been kind to E.Jean.

The law of gravity I mean.

48 posted on 10/27/2020 1:08:55 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Coronal

Why would Trump want the DOJ to defend him in the first place?


49 posted on 10/27/2020 1:16:16 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: SES1066

At the time she made the accusation, that he raped her in a fitting room at BGs, one or more individuals familiar with the store’s operation, stated that it couldn’t have happened. That Bergdorff Goodman tightly controlled the entering and exiting of their fitting rooms, and by whom, and what was taken in or out of those rooms. So the very idea is absurd.


50 posted on 10/27/2020 1:21:26 PM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible so to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: Coronal

Common sense has left the building!

Leftist judges run roughshod over the Constitution and all other Laws to do whatever they want. I sure hope karma visits this judge. And who could ever rape a woman in a Department Store?? Wouldn’t her screams bring help???


51 posted on 10/27/2020 2:09:49 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: Coronal

Isn’t this the accusation that duplicates an episode of ‘SVU’?


52 posted on 10/27/2020 3:30:05 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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