yeah i see that- I never really cared for piper- McCartur is ok, but i don’t go for that lordship salvation stuff- I think it’s unbiblical- but what he teaches is usually very solid- piper i don’t really know too much about
Piper lost me on gender stuff. John MacArthur is no feminist but he isn’t so averse to women playing a wide variety of roles in life and in the kingdom.