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Walmart files federal lawsuit, local doctor says patients have been caught in the middle
mypanhandle ^ | 10/25/2020 | Erika Orstad

Posted on 10/25/2020 5:49:37 AM PDT by devane617

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To: metmom

I have a friend currently dieting from 4th stage bladder cancer. He called the doctor to get his morphine refilled. The RN said.....not sure we can do that since they’re addictive. He said....I think that’s the least of my worries.
The auto...addictive....response to terminal patients just boggles my mind. Patients should be able to be comfortable.


21 posted on 10/25/2020 6:44:09 AM PDT by sheana
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To: metmom

Dieing. Not dieting. Lol


22 posted on 10/25/2020 6:44:56 AM PDT by sheana
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To: eyeamok

They can enjoy getting dental implants without half a dozen Vicodin for the first few days.


23 posted on 10/25/2020 6:47:16 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
A veteran using our local VA clinic, (SW Fla.) being treated for a severe case of kidney stones, got denied for pain relief after the feds decided we all have an opioid crises. He finally gave up trying and blew his brains out in their parking lot. his family and friends put a small memorial for him there but the VA removed it, it had ants in it.
24 posted on 10/25/2020 6:48:20 AM PDT by ExSafecracker (Hey media. . . thats President Trump to you.)
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To: sheana
The auto...addictive....response to terminal patients just boggles my mind.

Impede people from getting themselves addicted to prescription opioids, turning to cheaper easier to get street drugs, and dying - fine ... but not at ANY expense to the people who need those prescriptions. Not ANY.

25 posted on 10/25/2020 6:49:25 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Just become a homeless person addict and move to CA and you’ll get all the free drugs and needles you could want.

Those government agencies are such hypocrites.


26 posted on 10/25/2020 6:52:26 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: servantboy777

Thank you for writing that, it’s exactly my experience. My family member followed all the rules, suffered the indignity of piss tests to prove it, and believed in their doctors.

It was heartbreaking and infuriating to watch as they suffered while being told by people in white coats it’s all For Your Own Good.

But trust us! And wear a mask!


27 posted on 10/25/2020 6:52:31 AM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: devane617

This problem is only a piece of the intent of the fallout of the problem. If a pharmacy can cut or eliminate a script for any purpose rather than written illegally, then they are refusing to supply a drug of any kind that a doctor has prescribed. The limiting of medication to a patient can fall under many guises.

One I deal with with my chosen for me pharmacy is their having to stock an expensive drug in the hospital pharmacy where a doctor within that hospital has prescribed. (It is the only one of its kind) The pharmacy only stocks a tiny amount of it for appearance purposes and creates ways to refuse to dispense it. They even took an AMA form used in Ohio used to measure success in lab experiments changed one of the questions, took any identifying information about the form off so it could not be found, and use it to misrepresent the form as a bench mark for allowing the use of the drug. So my doctor has the drug injected at their area within the hospital instead of my doing it at home.

But the slippery slope is that a pharmacy is over ruling a legitimate script for other than medical reasons using cost as a deterrent to assist their business, or in this case, the peoples’ business as it is a taxpayer pharmacy (military). So the reason is political, not patient care. So at that point they have invented a reason why a pharmacy would refuse treatment over the charge of a doctor for other than medical. And they can make up more reasons and have.

rwood


28 posted on 10/25/2020 6:59:20 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

Criminalizing “addiction” and altered mental states amounts to enacting religious dogma into law, which is or should be against the 1st Amendment prohibition of establishing a religion. So are laws against prostitution and gambling.

The Temperance Movement on the Right and Progressives on the Left join forces in the earliest 1900s to form a consensus for big government enabling each other to advance their respective agendas, even though they contradict each other on some points. It is a marriage of convenience.

It is where you get “big government conservatives. A lot of “small government conservatives don’t realize that small government is not capable of nor inclined to enforcing their social agenda.

I am a conservatarian. That is basically a security/economic conservative who is also anti-abortion but libertarian/liberal on all other major social issue.


29 posted on 10/25/2020 7:03:27 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: Redwood71

The problem is actually religious and originates on our side.
See #29.


30 posted on 10/25/2020 7:07:16 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: moovova

my hemorrhoid and shoulder operations?
= = =

What a combo.

Hope they did not mix up any parts.


31 posted on 10/25/2020 7:20:27 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: Scrambler Bob

“I sat on the throne and broke my scapula.”


32 posted on 10/25/2020 7:22:00 AM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA! Derps vs. Patriots, choose your side.)
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To: cpdiii

“You are correct. If a pharmacist becomes suspicious of a Dr. the best course of action is to inform the State Board of Pharmacy and State Medical Board. They can go through his records and find out is something is wrong.”

I agree. No doctor dishing out pain meds like candy is going to go through the effort necessary to formulate fake medical records for the hundreds, or thousands, of people needed to get through a quick audit of his records - not just impractical, likely impossible to do in a way that looks legit.


33 posted on 10/25/2020 7:23:20 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Lol...luckily, they were two separate operations.


34 posted on 10/25/2020 7:26:51 AM PDT by moovova
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To: metmom

Almost 2 years ago my 95 year old mother fell and broke 7 ribs in 11 places. She eventually died from those injuries. She survives for six weeks after the fall, but it was over managed by a bureaucracy She survives for six weeks after the fall, but it was over managed by a bureaucracy.

The freaking hospital handed off all her medicines to a pain management team who guarded her against addiction. She suffered a lot as a result.

One time she was complaining about severe pain, so they summoned the pain management team, who took over 40 minutes to get to her.

The government, the attorneys and the crybabies filing lawsuits need to get out of this business and allow medicine to run on its own and police itself.


35 posted on 10/25/2020 7:31:40 AM PDT by Loud Mime ("Now, go and do your duty before darkness covers the earth." Michael Uhlmann (1939 - 2019))
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To: devane617
https://www.drugabuse.gov/drug-topics/trends-statistics/overdose-death-rates

Since 2014 the rise in deaths from heroin has gone up by more than 35,000 and that was in 2018.

It can be traced right back to their war on opioids. Those people with chronic illnesses are looking for any type of relief and heroin is cheap on the streets.

Fentanyl in heroin has caused much of these deaths because they're getting dirty heroin.

Walmart stopped my prescription for an injection that my Doctor ordered for my pneumonia by saying that the Doctor's signature looked funny. I was so sick and my mom went off on them saying...."What do you think? We're slinging antibiotics on the street?" That was right as the opioid "crisis" was gaining steam.

https://www.piedmont.org/living-better/what-happens-if-you-take-too-much-acetaminophen

This is what they want us to do: "Acetaminophen overdose is one of the most common poisonings worldwide,” says Dr. Folk. “It accounts for more than 56,000 emergency room visits, 26,000 hospitalizations and an estimated 458 deaths due to acute liver failure each year, with the highest rate among patients aged 15 to 24.” These statistics are for up to age 24.

There aren't very many in that age group with chronic illnesses so you can imagine just how many of us are dying each year because we are not getting the pain relief that we deserve.

They'd throw you under the jail for doing that to a dog or cat.
36 posted on 10/25/2020 7:48:47 AM PDT by ssfromla
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

“The Temperance Movement on the Right and Progressives on the Left join forces in the earliest 1900s to form a consensus for big government”

For its first decades the Temperance Movement was all about awareness and social pressure - which is when it enjoyed its greatest success.

But today’s ‘social conservatives’ don’t have the guts to exert social pressure so pass the buck to big government.


37 posted on 10/25/2020 7:52:11 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: moovova
Are you saying I shouldn’t have been given oxycodone and hydrocodone after my hemorrhoid and shoulder operations?

I think she/he was trying to put forth that those in government are treated totally different than us that aren't.

I can't believe that you got those. Someone like me would've suffered with tylenol (like i am doing now) and that's the God's honest truth.
38 posted on 10/25/2020 7:53:12 AM PDT by ssfromla
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To: devane617

A doctor & friend once advised me to never shop at a grocery store that fills perscriptions, especially during flu season. He didn’t and that was convincing advice. I followed suit.


39 posted on 10/25/2020 7:53:35 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: ExSafecracker
A veteran using our local VA clinic, (SW Fla.) being treated for a severe case of kidney stones, got denied for pain relief after the feds decided we all have an opioid crises.

They denied my son for any type of opioid after a kidney stone and surgery.

It's criminal to do anyone like that and they should all be sued into submission. Dance around the courts with them for years.
40 posted on 10/25/2020 7:56:38 AM PDT by ssfromla
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