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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Hey idiots: stop pretending that US CO2 emissions are any sort of an issue. They are not.

Our CO2 output is almost exactly the same as it was in 1990. It was 5086 MtCO2 in 1990, and 5107 in 2017. That's an increase of only 0.4%. That's 0.015% per year. Almost THIRTY years, with basically ZERO additional output, while still dramatically increasing energy production. Our population has risen from 250m to 330m (32%), plus our thirst for electricity has exploded since then. Virtually nobody plugged in cars or phones or a third TV or their doorbell camera or their multiple computers etc in 1990.

Now let's look at the CO2 output of all mankind as a whole...

1990: 22,674
2017: 37,077.
The world spewed out 14,403 more MtCO2 in those same 27 years, an increase of 63.5% Got that? US, up 21. Everyone else, up 14,382... 685 times MORE than the US output increase.

So who is to blame? Well, it sure isn't Russia or Ukraine, the champions of lowering CO2 output in those years. They dropped by 614 and 578 respectively. Outstanding! And the EU as a whole dropped 861 MtCO2 annually. Got that? EU + Russia + Ukraine are DOWN 2053!! Great job!!

So where the heck is all this additional manmade CO2 coming from every year?

As any rational observer would expect, it is China that is responsible for by far the most new output. China went from 2397 in 1990 to 10,877 in 2017. No, that is not a typo. Their 358% INCREASE (+8480 MyCO2/yr) is basically the same as the US and EU produce in total, COMBINED (3548+5107=8655). CHINA added another US and EU of output to the world, and in just 27 years. Read that again. And by the way, that beloved Paris Accord does not require China to start adhering to its directives until 2030. They have a free ride until then... and who seriously expects them to live up to it in 2030 either?

That's 8480 of the planet's increase of 14,403... 58.9%... all from one country. And the US is the problem?!?! China's increase is 404 times as large as ours... but we are the problem. Ahem.

India is the only nation within an order of magnitude of China, with an increase of 1849 (which is 305% of their 1990 output).
Third place is Saudi Arabia at +472, and then Iran at +465, South Korea at +403, and Indonesia at +349.
Also noteworthy: International Shipping is up 306, and International Air Travel is up 285.

To recap it is:
China +8480
India +1849
the other 187 nations (plus international sources) +4074
US + EU + Russia + Ukraine = -2032.
WHO IS THE PROBLEM AGAIN? Who has to adhere to the Paris Accord and further reduce output, while China gets to keep increasing output? The facts do not reflect the direction of the proper efforts.

Oh, and by the way... increased CO2 is VERY good for all plant life on earth. We are at 410ppm now, and increasing at +1.8/yr. All plant life, including trees and crops, maximize growth and photosynthesis, between 750 and 1500ppm, depending on species. Got that? We are slowly approaching IDEAL conditions for life on earth, and the insane Left wants to prevent it. At 1.8/yr, it will take 189 years to get to the bottom of that ideal range, 417 years to get to the top of the ideal range, and another 189 years to get as far from the ideal range as we are today. Got that? It will take us 795 years to be as far from ideal as we are today, at our current, horrible, evil increase.

And by the way, CO2 levels were over 7000ppm and under 100ppm in the earth's natural climate cycles. Mammals (including humans) are not adversely affected below 5000ppm.

And yet, the hysteria is that the planet will be harmed in 30 years... somehow... by getting closer to ideal conditions for plant life... and not endangering mammals... SMH

data source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions

19 posted on 10/24/2020 11:02:11 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Teacher317

Teacher you don’t get it. CO2 IS NOT A POLLUTANT PERIOD. The amount of CO2 emission is irrelevant, not worth discussing. It is hack tool of economic suppression/control.


20 posted on 10/24/2020 11:07:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Teacher317

[[So where the heck is all this additional manmade CO2 coming from every year? ]]

All this additional CO2? The atmosphere has what? .04% in it? Think about that-

Put 0.04% 100 degree water into a pool of 70 degree water- what happens? Does the water come to a boil and kill; everythign inside the pool? Nope

Or- put a ‘cover’ over the top of a poll of say 100 Degree water in a room that is freezing, a ‘cover’ that covers only 0.04% of the pool- will the heat from the pool be trapped in the water?

Nope- the amount of escaping or rising heat that does get trapped will be so insignificant that it’s not even hardly measurable really or rather not even worth mentioning because it is so minuscule-

sure, there is ‘additional CO2 in our atmosphere- but try to picture a ‘blanket’ of CO2 that only covers 0.04% of the total world’s globe-

There simply is nowhere near enough OCO2 to even mention or worry about- in terms if causing catastrophic climate change- the vast majority of heat rising, escapes- with nothing to impede it- there just aint enough CO2 to have any serious effect in regards to trapping in heat and causing problems

[[As any rational observer would expect, it is China that is responsible for by far the most new output.]]

Doesn’t even reaLLY matter- CO2 is not causing climate change- it can’t be- CO2 rise 100’s of years- 800 or more- AFTER Temperatures rise- proving that CO2 is not driving temperature increases-

[[That’s 8480 of the planet’s increase of 14,403... 58.9%... all from one country. And the US is the problem?!?!]]

No country is ‘the’ problem- there is no problem- there simply isn’t enough CO2 to blanket the globe i n a thick enough blanket to cause catastrophic world wide climate change- Climatechange is happening because of other issues- but man certainly is not the cause

And just for the record- man’s contribution of CO2 to the atmosphere is around 0.00136% of the total atmospheric CO2- man is responsible for approx only 3.4% of the 0.04% total CO2- 0.00136% of the atmosphere is such a small amount, scientists should be ashamed of claiming it is 90+% responsible for climate change


28 posted on 10/24/2020 11:39:57 AM PDT by Bob434
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