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To: Kaslin

I have never understood why what’s wrong with getting rid of fossil fuels is only spoken of in terms of jobs that would be be lost. What about the fact that some people here in NE PA still heat with COAL, a tremendous number of people heat with oil and natural gas and only a fraction of today’s cars and trucks run on electricity?


6 posted on 10/24/2020 4:28:29 AM PDT by finnsheep
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To: finnsheep

NONE of today’s cars and trucks run on electricity.

Those that claim to actually run on coal and natural gas.


18 posted on 10/24/2020 4:57:04 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: finnsheep
I have never understood why what’s wrong with getting rid of fossil fuels is only spoken of in terms of jobs that would be be lost.

Yes you are exactly right. Energy jobs are rare because they are so productive. Coal miners, and to a much greater extent oil and gas workers, produce roughly 10 times as much energy in one hour than a solar panel installer produces in one year. Of course the panels keep producing, but even adding up all the "free" energy from the panels, the payoff is about 10 years.

There will indeed be lots of manual labor jobs installing panels. But it will be very low productivity and require trillions for the panels themselves. And the energy payback will take 10 years minimum.

20 posted on 10/24/2020 5:14:28 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: finnsheep

Agreed. There are other reasons apart from jobs thay are not being well explained, like having to choose between climate change and the destruction of the environment by renewable energy sources, irregularity of output (which has to be offset by the use of gas), the bigger ways in which renewables contaminate, etc. Explained in this ted talk (which also makes a case for nuclear energy). Its only 17 minutes. Really worth the time to be equipped with good short answers in a discussion of the topic.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N-yALPEpV4w


27 posted on 10/24/2020 7:39:55 AM PDT by angelanddevil2
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To: finnsheep

Maybe that there is no such thing as “fossil fuels” and that even using that term adopts the leftist view.


34 posted on 10/24/2020 4:21:43 PM PDT by goorala
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