[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

>So how come figures are going up in New York but the have totally fallen in Sweden then?

I’ve seen your nic around. I would have expected you to check the data before posting nonsense.

Since Sep 1, Sweden daily cases are up 5X in the second wave (170 to 823).
New York cases have doubled in the same period (700 to 1500).

Deaths are almost flat in both, in single digits until recently in New York, now 10-20 with a few worse days. And Sweden just had its worst day since July 28 with 6 deaths.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

I check these before saying anything.
They may be lies or damn lies but they are what they are and neither of us have our own independent information.

[SmokingJoe]

What are the figures since October 1st? Why limit it to September 1st?
What is the total deaths/infections per million in Sweden as compared to New York State or New York City?
How many suicides, domestic abuse cases, child abuse cases all from lockdows did lockdown New York experience as compared to the no lockdown Sweden?
What was the economic damage in New York all from brutal lockdowns as compared to no lockdowns Sweden?

[SmokingJoe]

They may be lies or damn lies but they are what they are and neither of us have our own independent information.

Cherry picking data to advance a “beat Trump in November “ agenda is nothing new.
Fauci has been doing it for over 6 months.