Posted on 10/21/2020 9:33:34 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
“OK, Mr.Math, how in the hell can Germany have 9,000 some Covid deaths while the US has 200,000 ? ‘splain that MisterTruth master.”
Because from the beginning, Germany has classified any deaths involving a comorbidity as a death *from* that comorbidity, even if it was accelerated by CCP-19. From day one. If you were a diabetic and covid accelerated your death by years, or even decades, diabetes. If you had heart disease and covid caused you to have an immediate heart attack, they called it a heart attack. If covid caused brain lesions and strokes, they classified it as stroke. If you had covid and the common flu, you died from the flu. There were plenty of articles about how the Germans were doing that, versus how other countries were doing it, versus how the Italians were reporting covid *somewhat* more honestly until the Chinese showed up to “help”. Add to that, in Germany there was much more drastic mitigation, prohibitions on public gatherings of “more than one” (not kidding) and so on. They friggin’ canceled Oktoberfest. They had fewer cases per capita because they didn’t have a bunch of ODD children running around bleating about their right to infect others. All they really did was slow it down for a while, though, probably in the hope that there would be a cure and/or a vaccine before it got out of control. Incidentally, their CFR is *still* higher than ours, even with the alternative accounting they practice. I haven’t looked at the particular stat, but I wonder what their excess deaths numbers look like, YOY. I know what ours look like - we have some 200,000 surplus deaths compared to previous years.
I am not arguing against HCQ - never have, from the beginning. The evidence is clear, HCQ has at least a preventative effect and if I get covid I will demand it. I’d be taking it prophylactically now if I could.
We ARE doing much better than we were, and treatments are more effective. But I don’t want to be an early adopter if I don’t have to, and based on the people that I know that have had covid, YOU don’t either.
As for the media hype, joke’s on them if they were doing it for political ends. It is only suppressing the ‘Rat vote. But there is plenty of disinformation coming from the other side as well regarding masks and statistics.
So you admit the US death numbers are bull$hit. If you were struck by lightning but had tested positive it was a Covid death in the US.
“... if I get Covid I will demand it.”
Oh you will? What does your tyrant governor have to say about that?
“I’d be taking it now prophylactically now if I could.” So why can’t you ?
I don’t get what you mean by “plenty of disinformation from the other side regarding masks and statistics.” Oh, do you means like Sweden (a stupid non HCQ country as well)?
How many people are sick? In the hospital?
I was in Munich on what would have been the first day of Oktoberfest. We saw a good portion of residents dressed up in dirndls and lederhosen.
Evidently since they couldn’t hold a traditional fest, a group of bars and restaurants in Munich encouraged their customers to dress up if they planned to go that day. While not a majority, a substantial number of Barvarians participated.
I live south of Stuttgart, the uptick is noticable here. Over the past few weeks traffic has been increasing during the morning rush hour, now it is declining again.
The increase in cases in the German population is being mirrored in the American military community as well.
Other respiratory diseases (eg. "colds") are doing their normal fall thing and getting into the act. Since some of these are considerably more infectious than flu, mitigation does not suppress them as well as it suppresses the flu.
I'm a great example: My daughter brought home "something" from school, and all 3 of us, my wife, my daughter and I all got the same symptoms, with varying degrees of severity. My wife's illness was mild, my daughter's generated a 100.5 deg. fever and she felt bad for 3 days, one day more so, and I really got pasted for almost 3 days, got about 90% better, but can't seem to throw the chest congestion and an occasional cough. We were all 3 tested for CV-19, results for all 3 of us were negative.
Serious / critical cases are on the rise in the US, but, not rapidly so at this point.
Herd immunity is looking better and better... Sweden took the early hit and not every other country is catching up.
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