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What if Beating Trump Is the Easy Part? If Biden holds on, keeping the Democratic coalition intact will take an unusual level of political skill.
New York Times ^ | October 21, 2020 | Thomas B. Edsall

Posted on 10/21/2020 7:08:41 PM PDT by karpov

In the short term, should Joe Biden win the election and move into the White House, he would take office with a Democratic Party unified in its opposition to all things Trump. The question is how long would that last before leaders of every liberal interest group circling the new administration begin to get restless.

In answer to this question, Carter Eskew, a top strategist on Al Gore’s 2000 campaign, wrote by email that

Biden became a unity candidate in response to an overwhelming, almost feral desire to limit Trump’s damage to one term. When Trump leaves, Democratic unity, I fear, may be close behind. Unlike Republicans who have essential agreement around economic and social policy, our Party has fissures on many fundamental issues.

Danger signs for a Biden presidency are already emerging. Different factions within the Democratic coalition will have competing demands: Last week, Black lawmakers — led by Representative Bennie Thompson of Mississippi — called on Biden, if victorious, to appoint an African-American as secretary of the Treasury, “complicating,” as Axios put it, “prospects for establishment women — like Lael Brainard, Janet Yellen and Sarah Bloom Raskin — to become the first female Treasury secretary.”

Another source of potential division: corporate elites and the donor class versus the reform left: Raúl Grijalva, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Pressley and Katie Porter, along with organizations like the Communications Workers of America, Our Revolution, Indivisible and the Progressive Change Campaign, called on the Senate on Oct. 16 to reject “any nominee to an executive branch position who is currently or has been a lobbyist for any corporate client or c-suite officer for a private corporation,” putting them in conflict with much of the affluent Democratic establishment.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; bidencabinet; bidencabinetpicks; cabinet; democrats; fakenews; thomasbedsall; thomasedsall; treasury; treasurysecretary
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I think Biden will lose if enough voters know what a Biden administration with a Democratic Congress would be like.
1 posted on 10/21/2020 7:08:41 PM PDT by karpov
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“Coalition” = PAY ME.

Even with a Democrat majority they had to bribe legislators to pass Obamacare.


2 posted on 10/21/2020 7:09:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: a fool in paradise

Trump will win. Useless article.


3 posted on 10/21/2020 7:11:50 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: karpov

What if defeating the NY Times was the easy part? How difficult would it be for the Democrats to be able to plant “anonymous sources” to steer public opinion?


4 posted on 10/21/2020 7:13:12 PM PDT by theyreallthesame
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I think Biden will lose if enough voters know what a Biden administration with a Democratic Congress would be like.

Good try I guess?

5 posted on 10/21/2020 7:16:23 PM PDT by Fairhairedboy (MAGA)
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To: conservativepoet

I read this as the rationalization “Boy, it’s a good thing we lost!”


6 posted on 10/21/2020 7:16:26 PM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: karpov

Newt says last night, this is like Tom Dewey in ‘48 announcing his cabinet, Trump is going to win and win decisively.


7 posted on 10/21/2020 7:20:29 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: karpov

What if the NYT told the truth


8 posted on 10/21/2020 7:24:28 PM PDT by Gasshog
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To: karpov

Obviously,they’re smokin a lot of dope at the Slimes.


9 posted on 10/21/2020 7:28:18 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: karpov
Biden isn't winning. Got this from a fellow Freeper down below. I believe it.

Biden has no lead in any of those states and is in trouble with those he should win! I just got these latest numbers from my friend who is friends with the independent pollster who is one of the best in the business:

NJ Trump 45 Biden 48

NM Trump 45 Biden 46

OR Trump 46 Biden 47

NV Trump 49 Biden 46

CO Trump 47 Biden 47

WI Trump 50 Biden 45

NH Trump 49 Biden 46

ME Trump 48 Biden 46

VA Trump 47 Biden 47

PA Trump 50 Biden 45

MN Trump 47 Biden 44

AZ Trump 50 Biden 45

MI Trump 50 Biden 44

FLA Trump 52 Biden 44

TX Trump 54 Biden 42

NC Trump 53 Biden 43

OH Trump 53 Biden 41

IA Trump 54 Biden 41

National Poll: At least 100 people in each Congressional District have been polled. Almost 44 to 50 thousand respondents who are likely voters.

Trump 51.2 Biden 44.4

10 posted on 10/21/2020 7:29:15 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (What if the Lord sent COVID-19 to immunize the world from something more deadly?)
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Trump will win. Useless article.

Partner, President Trump wins election with at least 425 electoral votes.

This article by the NY Slimes is so useless.

This is what we get from "Giant Sixth Grade Brain Journalists" at the NY Slimes paper.

Freepers already know that "Journalism is Dead" right now.

11 posted on 10/21/2020 7:29:52 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas..)
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To: karpov

If they cheat Biden into office, they will sweep him out within 6 months.


12 posted on 10/21/2020 7:30:37 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Retrofitted

Great interpretation.


13 posted on 10/21/2020 7:31:10 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: Gasshog

What if Biden holds on through the beating, but the camera’s not on MUTE.


14 posted on 10/21/2020 7:34:06 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: karpov

Joe is moving very slightly to the middle so he can get elected. That’s temporary.

If he wins the hard-core base takes over because there are no moderates with power remaining. But they really need the Senate to seal the deal.


15 posted on 10/21/2020 7:34:34 PM PDT by plain talk
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Do they not even care about the corruption? Do they care about kicking back 50% of political corruption money to “Pops”?


16 posted on 10/21/2020 7:35:34 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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I am not going to bother reading the whole article. But I think that there is an underlying truth--the Democratic Party's coalition is fraying.

I don't know how long Midwestern Blue-Collar Democrats can keep believing that they can retake their party. The Woke White Kids want radical change. And now Trump is threatening to break open the gates to the Black and Latino Plantations.

I am optimistic about Nov 3. And if I am right, there is going to be a civil war in the Democratic Party after they get done rioting in the streets. But who gets pushed out? Will the moderates join forces with #NeverTrump RINOS to form a new allegedly centrist party? Will the Hard Left go full Libtard and start their own new party? Can Nancy Pelosi keep her job (or even be Minority Leader if a Red Wave manifests itself)?

The anti-Trump hate-fest has glossed over the very real fissures in the Democratic Party. Biden is the nominee because the grandees rigged things for him. Harris is on the ticket as a sop to Obama. She has no real power base of her own. I now wonder if Crazy Bernie would have actually been a more formidable foe that Grandpa Badfinger.

17 posted on 10/21/2020 7:36:11 PM PDT by Lysandru (Fnord)
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To: MuttTheHoople

If those numbers are correct it’s landslide territory.


18 posted on 10/21/2020 7:37:16 PM PDT by xp38
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To: karpov

Don’t they mean: “What if losing to Trump is the easy part?” Because the Left will turn their violence on the Democrat hierarchy the moment they realize Trump has beaten them again.


19 posted on 10/21/2020 7:40:28 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: MuttTheHoople
Mutt, I am really intrigued by the numbers that you are feeding us. If they were to pan out, the MSM and #NeverTrumpers will be on suicide watch. Since I don't know you or your pollster contacts, I have to be skeptical. But if Trump wins NJ, then it's "Katie bar the door."

The numbers you list are indicative of a complete rout that would could signal a seismic shift in our political landscape.

20 posted on 10/21/2020 7:41:21 PM PDT by Lysandru (Fnord)
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