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Infectious disease expert: Coming weeks will be ‘darkest’ of COVID-19
nypost ^ | 10/19/2020 | Lee Brown

Posted on 10/19/2020 6:39:59 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

“US is seeing a fresh surge in cases”

As long as they dont die, then why the hell should we care?

Does this clown freak out every flu season?


41 posted on 10/19/2020 7:11:20 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Sounds like the Rats are about to intentionally release some more virus out of desperation. . . . Won’t be the first time, IMHO


42 posted on 10/19/2020 7:23:23 AM PDT by RatRipper ( Democrats and socialists are vile liars, thieves and murderers - enemies of good and America.)
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To: calenel

“Post your sources. You won’t - they don’t exist, just more of the circular reasoning so beloved by the left. You’re just regurgitating what you want to be true.”

I copied it from another post on the same thread. You sound like you hope it’s going to be more deadly. So if I disagree with you I’m a leftist? You’re a sick one.


43 posted on 10/19/2020 7:23:28 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: ChicagoConservative27
The elites are herding us through fear. Jesus Christ sets us free from fear...

” Hebrews 2:14 he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil— 15 and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death.
44 posted on 10/19/2020 7:27:52 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: calenel

The real mortality is about 1.5%. Not great, and the virus has been particularly hard on blacks in America, for some reason. But it’s not the end of the world either, and no reason to destroy the economy.


45 posted on 10/19/2020 7:33:11 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Why ? Are you trying interfere with the election ?


46 posted on 10/19/2020 7:33:27 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Wake me when we get to the 2 million deaths we were suppose to have. Based on current trend that will be 5 1/2 years.


47 posted on 10/19/2020 7:36:59 AM PDT by dgbrown
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Last minute, pre-election, fearmongering.


48 posted on 10/19/2020 7:38:05 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: VanDeKoik

2018-2019 flu season mortality was 0.2% of those who sought treatment. COVID is about 8x higher death rate, so it is not a fake disease. Even if CDC is monkeying with the numbers, COVID is significantly more dangerous than the flu. That said, I have comorbidities and am not young, but go out and live my life as normally as possible. It’s madness to destroy the world economy over this.


49 posted on 10/19/2020 7:42:17 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: ChicagoConservative27
I've yet to hear from a veterinary epidemiologist. These human medical doctors dealing with a pandemic have never experienced an outbreak before and predicted the outcome correctly. Veterinarians OTOH have dealt with dangerous infectious diseases almost yearly. Epidemiology is the domain of veterinarians with respect to disease. Fauci and his cohorts have yet to be right. They were wrong at the outbreak of GRIDS and it was a veterinarian that set them on the right course. When SARS erupted, CDC had to rely on veterinary virologists to study Coronaviruses.
50 posted on 10/19/2020 7:54:34 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I’ve pretty much had it with “experts”.

Check his party affiliation.


51 posted on 10/19/2020 7:56:42 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: ChicagoConservative27

More BS trying to frighten the elderly and infirm going into the final weeks before the election.


52 posted on 10/19/2020 8:01:11 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: calenel
Post your sources. You won’t - they don’t exist, just more of the circular reasoning so beloved by the left. You’re just regurgitating what you want to be true.

To keep the panic going we have been flooded with massive numbers of tests that are oversampled to the point that they have a false positive rate of approximately 90%. But this has the unintended consequence of lowering the “death rate” to numbers that are far less than the flu in most age groups. This is despite the fact that in a futile effort to prevent this deaths by gunshots, stabbings, heart attack, cancer, automobile accidents, diabetic coma and every other cause under the sun are still being called “coronavirus deaths” every single day, by CDC protocol. The game is called lying with statistics and it is good to know that we still have morons who fall for it every single day willing to step up and show the world just how incrediblly lacking their critical thinking skills are.

If we didn't have fearpers show up on every thread doing their part to spread the leftist narrative while accusing those who try to counter it, of being... leftists... what kind of fun would we have around here? If you ever lose your day job... Adam Schiff may have something for you in his office.

Hey genius... those numbers are courtesy of the CDC and your beloved “world-o-meter”. Now go back to sleep, the adults are trying to have a conversation!

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/25/cdc-data-shows-high-virus-survival-rate-99-plus-for-ages-69-and-younger-94-6-for-older/

53 posted on 10/19/2020 8:21:34 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

I guess we are all going to die in the next couple weeks. If that’s the case...PARTY ON!!! I’m tired of this “panic-porn” from politically-compromised “doctors” and “experts”.


54 posted on 10/19/2020 8:50:18 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: SamAdams76

I hope they stay home.


55 posted on 10/19/2020 9:15:51 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: ChicagoConservative27; All

Right on schedule. TickTock... we’re all gonna die. Mask up and hide.


56 posted on 10/19/2020 9:21:06 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: fireman15

You just demonstrated for all to see that you are, indeed, a moron. Your BS about how all these deaths are mischaracterized is tinfoil hat stuff. Are there some errors, or even cheating? Undoubtedly, but it’s probably a wash as the errors are committed both ways. In any case, you claiming statistics from the CDC that are directly contradicted by the statistics from the CDC shows you’re full of crap. Lying with statistics is what you retards bleating about your right to spread a potentially fatal disease are doing wholesale, using any excuse to claim what you want to be true is true, rather than an objective examination of the facts. Your casual disregard for the welfare of others is despicable. The age distribution of deaths from CCP-19 is similar to that of the flu, but at a higher magnitude. Most people that die from the flu are those old worthless sick people you rationalize as being at death’s door anyway. That’s the closet abortionist in you talking - they are real people whose lives matter, not insignificant clumps of cells.

CCP-19 is a probable bioweapon released by the Chinese (accidentally, I think). That’s as far as the conspiracy goes, IMO. Beyond that, it is a fact that 220,000 Americans have died from it or the accelerated effects of comorbidities and opportunistic infections - albeit half of them due to Cuomo and his crowd deliberately sending infecteds into nursing homes. Your mask aversion is not science - masks keep you from infecting others. Yeah, you don’t give a crap, because it’s all about you and your imaginary rights.

There have been some 8.4 million confirmed cases out of 126 million tests, and 225,000 deaths. That’s not that 99.9% BS number you keep hyping. That’s more like 97%, with all that extra testing simply confirming that only about 2-3% of t he population has had the virus. That, in turn, is due to the aggressive mitigation that has been going on.

The 99.9% number is the Flu stat that the FluBros have been pushing because they are still in denial. Flu: 0.1% fatal. CCP-19: 2.75% fatal. Oh, and the claim that 6% of people that die with CCP-19 die from CCP-19? Well, only 3.75% of people that die with the flu die from the flu. And those are the real stats. Most diseases simply trigger other problems or allow for opportunistic infections, they don’t kill you directly. Medical science, you moron. Just to add a little bit to the discussion - if you get the flu you possibly will get pneumonia as an opportunistic infection, separate from the flu, but enabled by the flu’s effects on your immune system. If you get CCP-19 you quite possibly will get something that is like pneumonia, but it isn’t an opportunistic infection, it is a direct symptom. But they are using the flu model when they generate that 6% number - it is actually significantly higher for “just” CCP-19 deaths.

This is not the apocalypse, but it isn’t a hoax, either.

But keep on clinging to your bizarre lies and self delusions if it makes you feel “safe”. Idiot.


57 posted on 10/19/2020 12:38:36 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: calenel
I included a link with my last post to you that apperantly was beyond your reading comprehension level. It is unfortunate that people such as yourself with diminished cognitive abilities resort to vile name calling when the flaws in their reaoning are pointed out.

CCP-19 is a probable bioweapon released by the Chinese.

There are just so many bio-weapons released that pose almost no danger to people under 70. You are just so damned smart that it is unbelievable! I sure wish that I had you on the Hazmat Team that I was in charge of for several years. You would have been a big help. /s

58 posted on 10/19/2020 9:43:28 PM PDT by fireman15
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The mortality rate as compared to the totality of currently known USA resolved cases(that is recovered PLUS those who’ve died) is 4.5% per cent. The world rate hovers between 3.75 to 4.5 when deaths are measured against the total known resolved cases(excluding China which several sources don’t include).

Now this doesn’t mean that 4 per cent of the world is going to die. This does mean that of those testing positive(false or otherwise), who go onto become registered as a confirmed case, will go onto having a 4 percent chance out of 100 chances of ending as a fatality(whether directly which is a smaller percentage or in combination with aggravations of their pre-existing co-morbidities).

At first the mortality rates were high using this method as we didn’t have enough recovered cases to judge the mortality rates against but this was to be expected; within 3-4 months we would see how the curves would flatten out. In that 3-4 months, we could get a sense of what the disease would do in terms of real mortality rates as more folks who caught the disease recovered from it and were then listed in the RESOLVED category. Within 4 months I saw that the mortality rates did drop generally into the 3.5 to 4.5 ranges nationally as well as globally.
Unfortunately, even 7 months out that number seems still wedged in the 4 to 4.5 percent range.

Fortunately despite the some 8 million confirmed cases we have had 120 million negative results. Of those 8 million cases only about 5 million or so are considered “resolved”(either recovered or dead) and about 3 million are still listed as active.

So the good news is that a large majority are testing negative and many more may never get tested who may have already had the disease and never knew it. The real focus should be on treatments and monitoring those who get a confirmed case with the hope that the actual mortality rate amongst the truly “confirmed as resolved” cases will further decline.

Right now the mortality rate still is stuck at about 4 percent worldwide amongst those who are CONFIRMED as positive who may or may not go onto to develop serious illness. I hope to see that number further decline.


59 posted on 10/19/2020 10:43:27 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: fireman15

With our reading the specifics, ignore the Freeper with whom you have disagreement. They’ve been called out on other threads for making claims without attribution re: COVID-19.


60 posted on 10/20/2020 1:04:20 PM PDT by Fury (.)
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