Whitmer expected to sign ‘Clean Slate’ bill

wilx ^ | 10/11/2020 | Jake Vigna

[ChicagoConservative27]

LANSING, Mich. (WILX) - Tomorrow is a day many convicted of small criminal charges have been waiting for. Tomorrow, Governor Gretchen Whitmer is expected to sign the “Clean Slate” bill.

The so-called “Clean Slate” bill passed in a 29-to-8 vote.

The bill, once signed, will erase a person’s record seven to ten years after being convicted of certain charges like marijuana misdemeanors.

It doesn’t apply to offenses that carry a prison sentence of ten years or more, including assault and human trafficking.

[ChicagoConservative27]

What a virtue signaling dumb ass.

[Pining_4_TX]

Does it matter any more? They let people out of prison a few short years after they were convicted of murder. There are now laws that prohibit landlords from asking about a potential tenant’s criminal record. It goes on and on. They are determined to create chaos and release the criminal class against us.

[Yo-Yo]

Does the “Clean Slate” restore Second Amendment Constitutional rights? I didn’t think so.

[cuban leaf]

It’s actually a good idea. The stopped clock was right for a minute.

[cuban leaf]

Does the “Clean Slate” restore Second Amendment Constitutional rights? I didn’t think so.

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If it doesn’t, it’s misslabelled.

[joe fonebone]

just remember... this bill was crated and passed by our wonderful gop controlled legislature... now someone tell me again the difference between republicans and democrats?

oh yeah, i forgot... republican is socialist, and democrat is communist

[Pining_4_TX]

Yes, it’s pretty much a game. Most politicians have no principles at all.

[Skywise]

If it’s just misdemeanors and nothing violent, and the person hasn’t committed another offense during that time...

I don’t have a problem with it.

[circlecity]

“Does the “Clean Slate” restore Second Amendment Constitutional rights? I didn’t think so.”

Don’t be so sure of that. Indiana’s expungement statute does restore 2nd amendment rights.

[Yo-Yo]

From a Clickon Detroit article:

Once a conviction has been set aside by the state, the individual will not legally be considered to have been previously convicted of that crime. However, a conviction that is set aside can still be considered a “prior conviction” by courts, law enforcement agencies and attorneys for the purpose of charging an individual with a second or subsequent offense.

Since the ATF has been prohibited from expending funds to restore Second Amendment rights to ex-felons, and I don't think the "Clean Slate" bill removes an individual's felony conviction from the FBI database, I'm not sure if an 'expungement' can be appealed to the NICS system.

[ConservativeInPA]

So much credibility in the criminal justice system has been destroyed. Somehow I grew up thinking that when someone broke the law they paid their debt to society. That's justice. Likewise, once the debt is paid, a person should have their freedoms restored so they could contribute to society. The second half of that is most difficult for people to do. The locking up part is easy. The forgiving part not so much. I am reminded of the Lord's prayer ... forgive us our trespasses, As we forgive them that trespass against us. But it is beyond forgiveness. We require trust.

The criminal justice system does not instill trust into citizens. A lot of people do not think criminals have paid their debt to society which leads to exclusion from society in the most simple ways, like a decent job. We need to be insured that people do real time for real crimes and that reform has occurred. The flip side of that is when given that trust, we give people a real second chance.

[webstersII]

This kind of legal reform is way overdue.

I’m just surprised to see Governor Lockdown signing it.

[familyop]

She and the other Democrats are legitimizing and arming Antifa/BLM types and other antisocial criminals to discourage police efforts and attack moral people. The best that police can do is to reestablish those criminal histories by busting the criminals again. The criminal histories give potential victims a fighting chance, when they must defend themselves.

[cuban leaf]

My take as well. I have a family member that spent a year in prison for breaking a window in a school with a rock. He’s now an uber responsible person in his private life and job. That conviction was done by a vindictive small town judge anyway, and there is no reason this should even be on this guy’s record.

[I want the USA back]

Small charges now, murder in a few years, because that’s the goal. A true leftist believes that the maximum sentence for any crime should be 14 years. And that’s only for adults, which they define as over 29 years. (Except for the purposes of voting and/or sex, in which case they define adult as 12).