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Early vote favors Trump in North Carolina
Target Smart/N. Carolina State Board Elections ^ | October 8, 2020 | Bort

Posted on 10/08/2020 7:34:41 AM PDT by bort

I analogize Democrat early voting numbers (VBM) to a Corvette equipped with a rebuilt Pinto engine underneath the hood. Looks great on the outside, but underneath the hood....well, the Democrats have problems.

Bad news: Out of 420K VBM ballots returned by NC voters, Dems 52% (218K), Reps 17% (72K), and Una 30% (130K). Looks bad for Trump? Right?

Good news: According to Target Smart (see link), which does a "party roll up score" for all voters in NC--in other words, they "model" every voter to determine that voter's likely voting history, e.g., a white male Democrat in rural NC who owns a gun is modeled a "Republican", etc., Republicans are doing great:

Democrats: 241,920 (61.5%)

Republicans: 123,398 (31.4%)

Unknown: 27,805 (7.1%)

In other words, while Democrats have returned their VBM ballots at a 3 to 1 rate compared to Republicans, Biden likely leads the early vote by only 2:1. In other words, the VBM ballots are being returned disproportionately by older, whiter, and more conservative voters than the Democrat universe as a whole. The black VBM turnout in NC is abysmal DESPITE a ton of money spent by Dem-aligned PACs to encourage VBM for black voters.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: earlyvote; northcarolina; trump
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Folks, LS has talked about the "student shortfall" caused by college campus closures, but a similar untold story is the "virus shortfall" for in-person voting. Democrat voters believe the media. They still think Trump colluded with Putin. And now they are being told by the media that China Virus is much more dangerous than we as Freepers all know it is. If there isn't a noticeable drop-off in in-person voting among Democrat seniors, blacks voters, etc., I'll eat my shorts. Discuss...
1 posted on 10/08/2020 7:34:41 AM PDT by bort
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To: bort

And now they have a Senate candidate who is sexting their chances down the drain.


2 posted on 10/08/2020 7:36:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: LS; byecomey; Ravi

Ping


3 posted on 10/08/2020 7:36:21 AM PDT by bort
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To: bort

Not certain older voters will vote for Trump. There are some so paranoid about COVID that they’ll give up every freedom Americans have ever had in exchange for a chance to have mandatory masks!


4 posted on 10/08/2020 7:45:43 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

Good point. We don’t actually know who the VBM ballots were cast for. However, what we do know is that the Democrats who have voted so far are much older, whiter, rural, and more conservative than the Dem voter file as a whole. This is great news for Trump.


5 posted on 10/08/2020 7:49:14 AM PDT by bort
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To: bort

I’m in rural NC, and see Trump signs and flags where’s there’s never been signs before...and not just a few here and there, but jamb-packed.


6 posted on 10/08/2020 7:54:15 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: bort

If there isn’t a noticeable drop-off in in-person voting among Democrat seniors, blacks voters, etc., I’ll eat my shorts.

Ha, ha. There’s an expression I haven’t heard since college days.


7 posted on 10/08/2020 7:54:43 AM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: LS; Ravi; byecomey

BTW, Florida TargetSmart numbers are great, also. Roughly 900K VBM ballots cast in Florida. As Speedy noted, the Dems lead Reps in returns roughly 52-30. TargetSmart has the party roll-up score as 55% to 38%.


8 posted on 10/08/2020 7:55:20 AM PDT by bort
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And a guy on Beck tore Rasmussen’s latest poll apart...he said he had to enroll to get the dynamics and found out they have Trump 12 points behind - and in the poll, they assume he’ll only get 76% of Republican votes - he got 88% ;last time with a LOT of Republican/Conservative pundits not on board...IOW, he has to get 12 points fewer Repub votes this time in order for their 12 point deficit to be on the same planet.


9 posted on 10/08/2020 8:13:15 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Will sexting result in rejexting?


10 posted on 10/08/2020 8:34:00 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: bort

How will the quickie-mart voters break with Kamala as the VP?


11 posted on 10/08/2020 8:35:47 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: bort

Good stuff Bort!


12 posted on 10/08/2020 8:47:26 AM PDT by Ravi
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To: trebb

“in the poll, they assume he’ll only get 76% of Republican votes - he got 88% ;last time with a LOT of Republican/Conservative pundits not on board...IOW, he has to get 12 points fewer Repub votes this time in order for their 12 point deficit to be on the same planet.”
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Trump’s covid doesn’t change the way people will vote. It changed his supporters willingness to participate in a poll at that time.

People’s Pundit pollster said that you don’t go from +1 to -12 like Rasmussen did so quickly from changing opinion. Public opinion doesn’t work like that. He thinks because of the covid virus its possible Rasmussen hit “response bias” in the Rasmussen poll. “Response bias is when voters and their party do not want to participate in polls and surveys because there is bad news for their guy. He wasn’t getting accurate people, to tell you the truth.” This was a failed poll because of the crisis.

Pollsters are having a very hard time polling this year. Response rates are down to 1% at Trafalgar. And republicans are 5 times more likely to say no to polls in general. Trump supporters even more likely to avoid disclosing who they plan to vote for.


13 posted on 10/08/2020 9:11:55 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

You nailed it


14 posted on 10/08/2020 9:23:16 AM PDT by Ravi
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To: bort

Also you probably have seen this but 75% of the ballots returned are from 2016 voters. Very few new voters.


15 posted on 10/08/2020 9:39:57 AM PDT by Ravi
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To: Ravi; LS; byecomey

No, I didn’t notice that, but that’s a good number for Trump. Thanks for pointing that out. BTW, according to TargetSmart, they have the race breakdown in NC as 77% white (!), 16% black, 7% unknown/other. Obama won NC by 1 point in 2008 when blacks made up 23% of the electorate and whites made up below 70%. In Florida, blacks make up 10.7 % of the VBM ballots. When Obama won FL, black share of the electorate was 13/14%..... AND this election many Republicans strongholds mailed out VBM on 10/1, whereas Broward, Palm Beach, etc. mailed on 9/24. Expect black share of VBM ballot returns to fall even further as Republican counties report.


16 posted on 10/08/2020 9:54:19 AM PDT by bort
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To: bort; byecomey; LS; SpeedyInTexas; Coop; plushaye

Slight thread hijack but this is a tale of 2 Indiana counties and the start of early in-person voting on October 6th.

This is only 1 day of data so could be meaningless but still this seemed somewhat salient to me..

With that huge caveat, here's how many ballots were cast at "Blue" Marion county (Indianapolis) and "Red" Hamilton county (north of Indianapolis):

Hamilton: 2000
Marion: 1200


Votes cast in those 2 counties in 2016:

Hamilton: 154,256
Marion: 362,372


Trump won Hamilton 56.7% to 37.1%.
Trump lost Marion 58.8% to 36.0%.

Marion is a much bigger county compared to Hamilton yet had fewer voters (by a large margin) on the 1st day of in-person early voting. Somewhat interesting.

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/07/indiana-elections-first-days-early-voting-attract-major-crowds/5907969002/
17 posted on 10/08/2020 11:41:20 AM PDT by Ravi
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I checked on absentee ballot delivery in NC with the board of election losers. No way i am letting the USPS criminals touch it. You can apparently vote in person even with absentee already delivered. IF, I’d have to turn that in at voting place I would not do, as the election board criminals will simply add it the their Dem ballot harvesting bin. So, I’m voting in person AND not letting the absentee outta my possesion


18 posted on 10/08/2020 11:47:51 AM PDT by Swanks
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To: Swanks
There appears to be many like you.
19 posted on 10/08/2020 11:49:16 AM PDT by Ravi
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To: Ravi; LS; SpeedyInTexas; byecomey

I think we all understand now why the Demcorats/media are pushing their obnoxious “Trump is a white supremacist” mantra and having Michelle Obama go out and make a fool of herself. Early indications—including this latest tidbit from Indy—are that Dems are struggling with black voters. The only exception I see is Georgia where a well-funded black senate candidate is running.


20 posted on 10/08/2020 11:56:24 AM PDT by bort
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