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Fauci warned that Trump's coronavirus recovery could soon go into 'reversal'
businessinsider ^ | 10/06/2020 | Adam Payne

Posted on 10/06/2020 6:15:16 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: Buckeye McFrog
If Herm were here he’d smack you upside the head for saying that.

But he's not here.

He's dead.

From COVID-19.

I believe Herman Cain has a right to end his life if he wanted to, but I don't believe he wanted to. He just failed to respect the danger he was placing himself in.

61 posted on 10/06/2020 7:18:18 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: The Fop
How much do they pay you to troll this site?

Who is 'they'? I've posted here longer than you, read my posting history and tell me who you think 'they' could be.

62 posted on 10/06/2020 7:20:30 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3

A humbling Herman Cain/coronavirus timeline:

6/24: Attends Trump rally, maskless
7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19
7/10: Says he’s improving
7/15: Says his doctors seem happy
7/27: Says he’s really getting better
7/30: Dies
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While fighting cancer. A fight which involves immune-suppressant drugs/treatments.

Bad comparison. Try Again.

Media: It’s a stunt. He never had COVID, but if he did, we’re glad and hope he dies. Besides, he’s now tainted for life and could relapse at any time, so continue being frightened and don’t even look at Trump because he’s a super-spreader and it’s his shameful fault anyway. But, he never really had it in the first place.

Do these evil MFers even hear themselves?


63 posted on 10/06/2020 7:21:07 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Or he knows Trump and the others at the RG Barrett intro were exposed to an enhanced version of the virus. Let’s hope that’s not the case.

....

Anything to back this up, or did you pull it out of your A$$?


64 posted on 10/06/2020 7:21:17 AM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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To: Jimmy The Snake

You know—I kinda like Dr. Scarf...at least she stays out of the way.


65 posted on 10/06/2020 7:21:23 AM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: abigkahuna

Dr. Scarf is a little more subtle in her treason, but she’s almost as big a problem.


66 posted on 10/06/2020 7:23:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Fauci needs to sit down and shutup. His preening is definitely disgusting. He has NO track record due to his flipflopping.


67 posted on 10/06/2020 7:23:20 AM PDT by upchuck (Congressional subpoenas. Congressional hearings. Criminal referrals to the FBI. It's all just Kabuki)
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To: Gunslingr3
I believe Herman Cain has a right to end his life if he wanted to, but I don't believe he wanted to. He just failed to respect the danger he was placing himself in.

so....you're a troll AND a mind reader! How amazing!


68 posted on 10/06/2020 7:24:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Gunslingr3

He is NOT dead from CV19 he is dead because his immune system was depleted from Chemotherapy it was Herman’s choice to live his life the way he chose to live it!! He knew the risks and he lived the way he wanted to live!! He CHOSE to attend that rally he chose to not hide in a closet, Herman did not think life was worth living confined in a closet somewhere!!


69 posted on 10/06/2020 7:25:34 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Fauci’s claim to fame is that he is the one who is responsible for exporting this reseaech and 3.7 million dollars to the Wuhan Lab under the Obama Administration. If you want to listen to his garble, go ahead, but he just spends his time spouting crap like this.


70 posted on 10/06/2020 7:29:44 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Herman Cain was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in 2006. He underwent treatment, including 4 rounds of chemotherapy. His treatment was completed in January 2007.

This is 2020. That’s 13 years later. His cancer treatment from 13 years ago was not a factor.


71 posted on 10/06/2020 7:31:40 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Fauci is a fear-porn troll addicted to the current worship by the media, a worship that will end the moment he no longer serves their purpose. They con’t care about him, they only care he provides the needed daily drip-drip of negative news the media Neds to push on the public.


72 posted on 10/06/2020 7:34:33 AM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: FrdmLvr
"Our immune systems went to sleep because the people were not coming into contact with germs of any kind, and it wasn’t needed."

That isn't how the human immune system works. There is no mechanism by which macrophages, neutrophils, dendritic cells, T-cells, or B-cells can go "to sleep". That's not a thing that exists.

73 posted on 10/06/2020 7:35:42 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

No, but immune systems do weaken over time if not challenged by exposure to pathogens.

That is the entire concept behind vaccines, no?


74 posted on 10/06/2020 7:38:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Herman Cain was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in 2006. He underwent treatment, including 4 rounds of chemotherapy. His treatment was completed in January 2007.

This is 2020. That’s 13 years later. His cancer treatment from 13 years ago was not a factor.

I can tell you from the personal experience of a cousin that a cancer from long go most definitely *is* a factor. Partially due to the prohibition of routine medical exams during the Covid lock-downs, a cousin had a reoccurrence of cancer go undiagnosed and untreated. She died.


75 posted on 10/06/2020 7:38:45 AM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
That’s 13 years later. His cancer treatment from 13 years ago was not a factor.

How do you know? Have you ever gone thru chemo?

It killed my dad. I doubt your body, including your immune system, ever fully recovers.


76 posted on 10/06/2020 7:39:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

No, neither of those is correct.

There is no mechanism for any part of the human immune system (which is made up of dozes of components that all interact with one another) to “weaken over time if not challenged by exposure to pathogens”. Now, if you stayed completely enveloped in a bubble for a decade, there would be a wider variety of novel pathogens due to antigenic shift, but as long as you’re eating, drinking, exercising, etc. the same from start to finish, your time in the bubble makes no difference to your immune system. It’s not a muscle that becomes weaker when it’s not exercised. Your immune system exists as a part of you, improving over time via Memory B-cells. But the macrophages, neutrophils, dendritic cells, compliment system, etc. are the same today as they were a year ago and will be the same a year from now, unless you do something that really wrecks your body.

The concept behind vaccines is that you trigger the chain of reactions that result in Memory B-cells being created specific to a certain pathogen. Once those Memory B-cells are in place, any future exposure to that pathogen results in a rapid release of antibodies, which likely overwhelms the pathogen immediately. This is the immunity that is conferred by vaccines.


77 posted on 10/06/2020 8:00:23 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“...But the macrophages, neutrophils, dendritic cells, compliment system, etc. are the same today as they were a year ago and will be the same a year from now...”
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Good to know. And here I have been believing my doctor friends when they mention the functioning of our immune systems weaken as we age. Fortunately we have your omniscient lectures here to set us straight.

/heavy sarcasm!


78 posted on 10/06/2020 8:16:35 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Is this because Fauci's brain runs in reverse?

Dr.Fauci is the BERNIE MADOFF of modern day medicine!

79 posted on 10/06/2020 8:26:45 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: House Atreides

Every single system in your entire body functions less efficiently as you get much older, which is driven by an increased rate of damage and decreased rate of repair right down to the cellular level. That has zero to do with anything specific to how the immune system works. It has zero to do with how many pathogens you’re exposed to. What I said is correct: the macrophages, neutrophils, dendritic cells, compliment system, etc. are the same today as they were a year ago and will be the same a year from now.

I said nothing about the system operating with perfect efficiency 50 years from now. The same degradation in efficiency associated with aging affects everything. But the MECHANISMS by which those components operate remain, even as all the cells - and even the components of the cells such as mitochondria - work less effectively.


80 posted on 10/06/2020 8:30:09 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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