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Sen. Pat Toomey announces retirement at end of 2022
The Hill ^ | 10/05/20 10:42 AM EDT | BY ALEXANDER BOLTON

Posted on 10/05/2020 8:20:41 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: RandFan

We’ll now see his true colors, probably. Not having to face the electorate again sometimes free up a politician to vote his “conscience”.

We had a squishy moderate/liberal Senator — Richard Schweiker — here in Pennsylvania many years ago who eventually became a decent Senator, but only after two things happened:

1. He was named as VP candidate on the Reagan ‘76 ticket, and saw firsthand that while Reagan was a staunch conservative he actually wasn’t — gasp! — a monster.

2. Schweiker announced that he wasn’t running for re-election in 1980 (Arlen Specter won that election).

After that announcement, Schweiker went from being noticeably left of center to noticeably RIGHT of center though not to be confused with being 100% conservative or anything close. He went from being 60-70% liberal to being about 60-70% conservative (rough figures).

His record through most of his career was well to the left of even Toomey and pretty much a match for most of Arlen Specter’s career. Once he decided to think for himself, he was a very pleasant surprise for a couple of years. I’m not counting on Toomey AT ALL to do the right thing, but I suppose there’s a small chance that he could pull a “Schweiker”.


21 posted on 10/05/2020 8:40:36 AM PDT by PermaRag (WANTED: millions of patriotic gun owners who are willing to trade bullets for freedom)
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To: Dr. Sivana

This guy is one of MANY fake Conservatives apparently.

Look at John Kasich. He won race after race in Ohio by claiming to be pro-life. But now that we might actually see something done with Roe v. Wade he decides getting rid of Trump is a bigger priority.


22 posted on 10/05/2020 8:51:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: PermaRag

My mom was actively involved with a Pro-Life group here in PA. She had met Richard Schweiker while lobbying him back in the 70’s. He was not on her side when they met but he came around. She always liked him.


23 posted on 10/05/2020 8:54:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: RandFan

Another Tea Party candidate that didn’t work out as promised/ hoped


24 posted on 10/05/2020 8:54:37 AM PDT by j.havenfarm ( Beginning my 20th year on FR! 2,500+ replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: pepsi_junkie

He was anti-Trump in 2016, and the only Republican I purposefully DIDN’T vote for.


25 posted on 10/05/2020 8:58:28 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Dr. Sivana

He was is as worthless as his counterpart Casey. WTF do these clowns do all day?


26 posted on 10/05/2020 8:59:55 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Pravious
He was anti-Trump in 2016, and the only Republican I purposefully DIDN’T vote for.

The pruning continues. A major realignment takes a long time, usually at least a generation. The more embedded the Establishment, the longer it takes. This one started in 1980 (arguably 1964) and continues on.
27 posted on 10/05/2020 9:01:26 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: RandFan

Bye Bitch!


28 posted on 10/05/2020 9:01:34 AM PDT by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You know, I talk all around the country.

I have YET to find one GOP group in any state who says, “Wow, our GOP is really strong.” (Maybe FL excepted). NM supposedly sucks. AZ supposedly sucks. CA supposedly sucks. PA supposedly sucks. VA is supposed to be terrible.

My point is, we hold our own and often win in all these states. So are the parties incompetent, irrelevant, or are they actually doing something right? Cuz they can’t all be terrible.


29 posted on 10/05/2020 9:04:29 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I personally know a Republican who ran for State Senate in Virginia.

He did not say that his state party sucked. He said that George Soros poured $12 million into his opponent’s campaign and record numbers of Dem voters appeared out of the woodwork.

Here in PA the GOP has a long history of shooting itself in both feet, and in the ass. Bad candidates, bad messaging, bad all around.


30 posted on 10/05/2020 9:11:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: RandFan

Toomey pledged to run on term limits and stepped down from his safe Congressional seat after 3 terms (6 years) He is simply keeping his pledge to term limit himself and step down after 2 terms as Senator. How many R’s, much less D’s can that be said about.

I have met Toomey multiple times. Personally flipped 3 voters the weekend before the primary election when he ran against Snarlin Arlen Spector while Bush and Santorum were pushing hard for Spector. He lost that primary but ran 6 years later and caused Spector to switch parties cause Spector knew he would lose to Toomey. Reid promised Spector they would support him in the Demo primary if he switched. He did and they didn’t and Spector lost his seat in a democratic primary after being a Republican senator for 30 years. Spector’s demise, a real true blue RINO, demo in R jersey, rabid pro-abortion, American hating jerk, is credited to Toomey.

True, Toomey did not run with Trump 4 years ago cause he like Trump himself and everyone else thought he would lose and definitely not win PA, even though the irony is that Trump pulled him over the finish line.

True, Toomey talks like a moderate and a RINO, but he has figured out how to win twice state wide in PA. No one else has been able to do that for decades, unless you want to count Tom Ridge, who is also a RINO and endorsed Biden last week.

Toomey may not be as conservative as you like, but he has NEVER cost the Republican’s a single vote on any issue that mattered. He has been a faithful, pro-life conservative in a state where most R’s could and would have never made it.

I noticed some Freepers always throw him in along with most of the other R’s as Rinos that need primaried. Toomey should not be one of them. Not that we Freeper’s opinions have any effect on anything, but stating such things makes us no more creditable than the nut jobs on DU.

We need R’s like Toomey to get to majorities where we can get things done. You guys know not of what you speak or write.


31 posted on 10/05/2020 9:19:20 AM PDT by pghbjugop
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To: RandFan

EMPTY SUIT! BYE!


32 posted on 10/05/2020 9:25:07 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: RandFan

Yep, he and Joe Manchin - both fans of the “death of a thousand cuts” philosophy of eliminating constitutional rights.


33 posted on 10/05/2020 10:45:35 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Just saying that no matter where I go, it’s the same story: State GOP terrible, “Worst in the country.”

Have yet to find one group that says,”Our state GOP is awesome.”


34 posted on 10/05/2020 10:59:25 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

“So are the parties incompetent, irrelevant, or are they actually doing something right?”

I don’t think you can compare Republican local offices to Democrat local offices - at the state and local level, party politics is volunteer activism, and Republicans just are not political activists by nature.

It seems like Democrats are naturally better at organizing politically, because they are better at minding other people’s business.

Republicans don’t want to be community organizers, political activists, or social justice warriors...they just want to vote, contribute some $$ and mind their own business - and be left to it.


35 posted on 10/06/2020 12:54:42 PM PDT by enumerated
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