Posted on 10/05/2020 6:22:45 AM PDT by Kaslin
In the comments section of a Townhall article, someone brought up the term "thought experiment" and suggested that you could have an interesting and engaging time with Biden supporters by engaging in such an experiment.
Here is an inspired way to apply the concept: If your liberal friends are still speaking to you, and it's getting more difficult all the time, ask them why they support Joe Biden and to do so without making reference in any way to Donald Trump. In other words, without mentioning the president's name or referring to him directly or indirectly, ask your friends what specifically prompts them to want to vote for Joe Biden.
Besides the utter amusement that you’ll experience (which you must contain to not rile your friends), be prepared for some hesitation, some uncomfortable moments, and a general lack of articulation.
Let Us Count the Ways, if Any
Might some of your friends refer to Joe Biden's ‘notable’ record in government service over the last 47 years? That would be interesting since even some staunch Democrats on talk shows can't seem to find anything to say about his long-term record.
Perhaps your liberal friends will discuss Biden’s support of African Americans? Likely not, since he has spent much of his career introducing legislation and favoring policies that diminish the economic livelihood and potential freedoms of African Americans, including the 1994 crime bill.
Could your friends refer to his outstanding scholarship? He claims to be the first in his family to have gone to college, to have ranked high in his college graduating class, and to have achieved various academic awards. None of these assertions are true. However, your liberal friends might cite them since they themselves have been utterly brainwashed by the complicit media.
Friends in High Places
Might your liberal friends refer to Joe's experience as vice president for eight years? During this time, the national debt under Obama and Biden grew by an amount that exceeded all previous administrations combined. What's more, the so-called 'scandal free' Obama/Biden Administration is now proving to be so scandal prone that in every single month during their administration, some major scandal was under way.
The recent revelations about Hunter Biden's cash windfalls from Ukraine, Russia, and China could keep your conversation going for days. Many Democrats are well aware of the Hunter Biden and Biden family follies, but they won't allow the name Hunter Biden to creep into their everyday conversation.
In an act of kindness, remind your liberal friends about key topic areas. Perhaps they favor Biden’s business acumen? Oops, he has none. Or, his ability in finance and economics? Hmm. Not sure about this. What about his stalwart efforts in securing peace in the Middle East? Oh, wait, better not touch that subject. Support of the #MeToo movement? Be serious.
A Little Help from My Friends
You could help your liberal friends by suggesting less hot-wired issues, potential topics such as education, defense, religious freedom, rights of the unborn, and so much more. By now, however, your friends, whether or not anyone admits it, will begin to understand the only reason they could possibly be voting for Joe Biden. That reason is they dislike Donald Trump. Okay, understood. There are plenty of rough edges around the president's personality. Still, there is no denying his effectiveness in terms of accomplishing what he said he would.
As your conversation winds to a close, be gracious. You likely have exposed your liberal friends' lack of articulation to themselves about why they would vote for Joe Biden. They know they hate Trump, but is that enough to hand the country over to someone who is in such little control of his own faculties that he will be dominated by handlers who have no intention of maintaining the America that we know?
After the thought experiment ends, or if your friends are sufficiently exasperated, allow them to refer to Donald Trump. Now, you'll find that they can go on and on about all the reasons why they prefer to have Joe Biden as president, mostly so that Trump won’t be president. As to Joe Biden, in and of himself? There is no sound reason on earth to vote for him.
You can not have a thought experiment with those who do not think.
No, there is not. AndI think most liberals would agree.
They are not voting for Joe--they are voting against Donald.
You cannot reason people out of a position that they did not reason themselves into.
I stopped talking politics with friends many, many years ago.
Its not worth it. They are not educating themselves. It is difficult to ask relevant questions without having them get defensive and hateful.
Who needs that?
Wouldn’t a thought experiment require them to think...?
Does. Not. Matter.
Their TV has told them that orange man bad, and that they’ll FEEL better with a president Biden.
That’s all they need.
Its not worth it. They are not educating themselves. It is difficult to ask relevant questions without having them get defensive and hateful.
Who needs that?
Try the Columbo technique. It can provide great entertainment.
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This is only of value if you have a strong reason to think the person is capable of thinking. They probably are not, since they are liberal. Most of them are NPC’s. Only spend time on the ones who might have the ability to think.
I actually tried this on one friend, and she decided, after some hemming and hawing, that his stance on abortion was the deciding factor for her.
Honestly, after they had gone a couple of rounds with me in the past, they are suspect of any “baiting.”
Once in a while, when things haven’t been well with my wife, my daughter will engage—just to give me something to do. Then we both laugh.
I am fine with that. There is enough anger in the world. I live in MA, so I am not changing any minds.
In the end, I would rather laugh. And come November that will be a lot easier.
I don’t have any demonicRAT friends... sorry.
“You can not have a thought experiment with those who do not think.”
You cannot have a civil conversation with a liberal about politics, especially the otherwise intelligent ones. They know their opinions defy common sense, so they immediately get defensive and agitated. I’ve seen this in my brother. It’s like the logical side of their brain gets into conflict with the emotional side.
> ask them why they support Joe Biden and to do so without making reference in any way to Donald Trump <
I don’t know if this is such a good argument. Back in 2012 I voted for Mitt Romney. If you asked me to defend my vote without mentioning Obama I couldn’t do it. No way could I do it. Yet I think my choice was perfectly fine.
Leftard loons hate reason and reality and choose not to think. They are emotionalists and social metaphysicians and trying to talk rationally to them is a waste of time and effort.
On another note, I have noticed in the past few years that when I meet new people they try very quickly in subtle ways to find out where I am politically.
Washington D.C. has infused its rotten self into everything - friendships, sports, school, even my spin class (when it was allowed to be open, that is).
“Its not worth it. They are not educating themselves. It is difficult to ask relevant questions without having them get defensive and hateful.”
Fifty plus years of leftist indoctrination in the public education system, and the destruction of religion, has achieved its objective. People have no commonly held values. People are not able to reason critically. They have been taught to emotionally respond to soundbites.
Not having been taught to appreciate the blessing of western civilization, half the people in this country have no concept of tyranny. The televised isolated arrest of a violent criminal hyped up on drugs is considered to be the height of indecency, by people who have no knowledge or concept of a leftist authoritarian state oppressing the masses in every facet of life. Absorbed with their cell phones, video games, and Starbucks latte’s (the bounty of a free capitalist society) they have no idea under the utopian socialist regime they cherish, they will be equal in their suffering.
To understand tyranny, a society must experience it or be informed. Our society is uninformed and has not experience real tyranny since the 1860’s. Therefore, it appears almost certain those enjoying the fruits of freedom will accept chains in exchange for symbolism and empty promises.
But a non-political relative recently saw a profile on Melania Trump and was amazed at all the good things she had been doing, asking me: "Why haven't I ever heard about this before?"
Why, indeed...
Back in 2012 I voted for Mitt Romney. If you asked me to defend my vote without mentioning Obama I couldn’t do it. No way could I do it. Yet I think my choice was perfectly fine.
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The very reason that I didn’t vote for the top of the ticket that election. The lesser of two evils is still evil. I learned that lesson by voting for McCain and said, never again.
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