Posted on 10/01/2020 5:39:01 AM PDT by marktwain
The People's Republic of NY is the same way.
It's called *Duty to retreat*.
Just another in a long list of reasons why we left that dictatorship.
A home defense rifle.
“ I bet the semi auto rifle was a .22lr with 25 round magazine since the two ended up on the lawn ... soon to be under the lawn somewhere.”
I’ve had people say you can’t use a .22LR for defense. Bull hockey. A cheap little Marlin semi-auto model 60 holds 18 rounds in the tube under the barrel. Accurate enough to shoot small critters to 70+ yards.
I guarantee you that mr criminal would not enjoy 10-12 rounds in the chest from close range. That would still leave a few to engage the second compadre!
So a “Semi-Auto DEFENSE Rifle” beat an Assault Revolver.
“In Marxistchusetts you are expected to flee such danger, even if it risks your life to do so.”
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Doesn’t Illinois also have the Haul Ass law? I believe you are not permitted to stand your ground, but are required to haul ass...that is, of course, if it is your desire to keep on living. Otherwise, there is no requirement to haul ass.
Regarding Marxistchusetts, there was an incident many years ago, when the homeowner (who just happened to have found his gun) attempted to hide in the basement. The invader came down into the basement looking for the owner. A shootout occurred, and the homeowner ended up killing the invader. The homeowner was charged in the death, because there was a window in the basement that he could (maybe successfully, or maybe shot in the process) have crawled out of and hauled ass. This was one of those option deals: be carried by 6 or judged by 12...your choice. He picked 12, but at least he lived.
That is a great story! I try to share some with my kids but sometimes I need something to jog my memories. Hunting was a ritual and I think I came to love the ritual as much as the hunt. We woke up around 4:30 am (if I slept at all) to the smell of coffee so strong it makes Starbucks taste like water. Grandpa percolated coffee the night before then dumped out the old grounds, added new grounds and percolated it again! The bacon was already cooked and fried eggs were submerged in bacon grease and butter in an old iron skillet. All you could eat. He percolated more coffee and I had to filled the coffee thermoses to keep warm during the hunt. Only the “men” got up early for the hunt. It was a coming of age for me. Even if Grandpa had to work the farm that day and could not hunt he was up with the “men” and got breakfast ready, planned out the hunt before we left. Once I hunted with him. He pulled up to the stand with a front loader and dropped wood. He built a fire! He told me deer are not afraid of the fire, sure enough a small herd came within 50 yards of us. All does and fawns sadly. Awesome memories.
As the two men, 34 and 36, forced there way inside...SMFH
5.56 NATO can do the same thing. For that matter, if you have unfortunate shot placement, someone hit by 7.62 NATO can live just long enough to stagger outside and collapse.
The problem isn’t that .22LR won’t kill. The problem is that .22LR might not kill *fast enough*. Numerous documented cases of people being mortally wounded by .22LR lasting long enough to kill the shooter and even greet police arriving on scene before collapsing.
He took two rounds of 12.7 (basically .50 cal machine gun) to the chest, and some 7.62x39, and some shrapnel, and was still able to kill the machine-gunner and crew...
So, .22 isn't the only round that takes time for an effect.
BTW, the Marine lived to tell the tale and make it to retirement...
He had some interesting scars, and only a part of one lung left ...
On average, though, most people graced with a good hit from .51 Russian and 7.62 AK are highly unlikely to be able to continue, whereas .22LR is not known to do the same sort of job. There’s exceptions to everything, but .22LR beyond contact range is not known to be an effective quick stopper.
Yep!
It is absolutely clear from all the reports that nuclear weapons were being manufactured and sold at that house...
Would be a pretty good bet that there is a tunnel under that house that extends all the way to Venezuela to ship those nukes...
Yep, that brings back memories. Sounds a lot lke our clan, basically the same thing but I don’t think grandpa percolated coffee twice. They used an old drip pot, but still so strong if you used sugar you had a struggle to get the spoon back. You also had to be willing to endure the dirty looks and occasional snarky comment.
My grandmother cooked breakfast after we got in from the woods, every hunter within 15 miles would come there to eat. I’ve seen her cook 3 dozen fried eggs in a morning, use a gallon of milk, 2 or 3 cast iroon skillets full of bacon or sausage, two huge pans of biscuits, the biggest pot she could find full of oatmeal, often twice...everyone who showed up would leave a rabbit or two, squirrel, whatever they went out to hunt, they would leave part of it for us, nobody ever asked anyone to do it, they just did. She had the cow and chickens so it didn’t cost a fortune. I’ve seen her cook breakfast for up to 30 people.
My father had 3 brothers, 4 sisters, most were usually there plus husbands, wives and a couple of cousins, and whoever wanted to wander in out of the woods. I have no idea how many hours we spent cleaning squirrels, rabbits and ducks. In one case, a big garbage can full of ducks was left with us after breakfast. enough feathers to fill a couple of pillows. Unfortunately, only the fine down from the breast is used, the total wouldn’t fill a good sized couch cushion. The rest is mostly useless, not used for writing any more.
I don’t think I ever saw them use any store bought meat, except for bacon. They never bought an egg or any milk, grew all their own veggies, not a can in sight.
Hunting and fishing were just what we did, I never gave it any thought until the 70’s and 80s when the animal rights loonies started screaming about it. With my grandfather’s generation, it was required for survival. In the country where they lived, it was 20 miles to the nearest grocery store, a trip they made once a month. (56 chevy pickup) No meat market, no milk truck made it out that far from town, so they hunted and grew their own. They also lived through the depression, and still had the same ‘can and store everything you can’ mentality from that. Truly a live off the land family.
At first I was surprised that all the secret service people on her detail were so short.
I saw Jimmy Carter at a book signing about 15 years ago and his Secret Service agents were all very short, too. Maybe there is a minimum height requirement to get the good assignments. :)
Yep....same in NJ. However, if you force your way into my home with a weapon drawn, I'm not waiting to find out why. I'm happy to tell it to the judge instead of allowing the coroner to do it.
Try “still reliable democrat voters”.
Iremember a lot of that too. Milk was from my grandmothers cow, then we’d go home and the milkman brought it by the house twice a week. The grandparents’ garden was huge, at least 1000 sq feet, maybe a lot more. About 100 feet across, over 150 feet long. They plowed it with an old horse drawn plow, hooked up behind a Ford 9n tractor. She’d drive for a while, he’d drive for a while.
Water was from a well, in the yard tot he right of the front porch, one of the old hand pump type. DO NOT make the mistake of leaving the well without filling that bucket beside it. Worst ass whipping you ever got was when my grandfather had to drive 10 miles to fill that bucket with water to prime the pump again.
I wasn’t around enough to know what they did for things like flour, sugar and such, but mosty likely the same thing, barter and trade with whatever they grew or hunted, and my grandfather repaired tube TV’s too. Only repair guy in the area for at least 10 years, so he had business. He used an old soldering iron that had to be heated with a torch. He always had a radio and a TV around though.
Never had rhubarb pie.
All the relatives canned everything in sight too. Tomatoes, pickles, corn, you name it.Istill make jelly myself and bake my own bread in cool weather. Hard to beat a good loaf of bread with oats in it...you want a sammich, that’s sammich heaven. Slap yer mama grilled cheese...still tempted to make up some more sourdough starter.
Don’t get me going...
Subsonic 5.56 with 112gr bullets will work as well, without deafening the shooter. #00 AAC with 208 gr bullets will work as well.
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