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The Curious Case of Environmentalist Mike Shellenberger
Townhall.com ^ | September 25, 2020 | Gabriella Hoffman

Posted on 09/25/2020 5:24:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

On a recent episode of my podcast District of Conservation, environmentalist Mike Shellenberger shared what’s on his mind regarding the current state of environmentalism.

An admitted moderate Democrat, the bestselling author of the summer breakout book, Apocalypse Never, discussed his findings from the book and why he’s speaking out.

Unbeknownst to many, the Environmental Progress founder and president had a reckoning about climate alarmism and apologized for contributing to any past fear mongering. In a June 29th blog post entitled, On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare, he wrote: 

On behalf of environmentalists everywhere, I would like to formally apologize for the climate scare we created over the last 30 years. Climate change is happening. It’s just not the end of the world. It’s not even our most serious environmental problem. 

Why Nuclear is Only Clean Energy That Makes Sense

During a 2017 Tedx Berlin Talk, Dr. Shellenberger confessed he was wrong about nuclear energy. He said

“I started out as an anti-nuclear activist and I quickly got involved in advocating for renewable energy. In the early part of this century I helped to start a labor union and environmentalist alliance called the Apollo Alliance and we pushed for a big investment in clean energy: solar, wind, electric cars.

I’d like to close with a quote from somebody else who changed his mind about nuclear power, and somebody else who was a huge childhood hero for me, and that’s Sting: “If we’re going to tackle global warming, nuclear power is the only way to generate massive amounts of power.”

Renewables like solar and wind are romanticized, Shellenberger noted. However, their production will “exacerbate mining threats” per a recent Nature Communications study

“There’s a kind of romantic love of renewables,” the environmental activist noted. 

“There’s two cognitive errors. The first is sort of the naturalistic fallacy that’s deriving an ‘ought’ from an ‘is’.That’s sort of imagining it [and saying] ‘well, because there’s climate change we should go back to living like we did before there was climate change’...But the other is the appeal to nature fallacy. That’s like the person that goes into the grocery story and goes, ‘oh, this brand of peanut butter is better because it says natural on it.”

“Solar panels are no more natural than nuclear power plants.”

Climate Change Isn’t Outright Cause of Wildfires

In his recent Forbes columns, Shellenberger emphasized climate change does precipitate California wildfires but isn’t the outright cause of them. 

“Climate change is happening,” the activist noted. “It’s real. It’s something we should deal with. It’s something, I think, we are dealing with. But nonetheless, climate change is extending the fire season and resulting in a higher temperature—so that is contributing.” 

“However, you could have had this amount of warming and not had these fires. And the reason we know that is because the forests that were well-managed...have survived the megafires.”

He also stressed  climate change and lack of forest management cannot be viewed as equal causes of the problem.

“It’s not obvious that there’s more fires now then there were in the past,” he said. “This year, we know it’s a historic fire year.”

“Fires are not bad. Fires are a natural part of every forest ecosystem in California.”

He noted two different forest types: mountain forests (high elevation with cooler temperatures, like the Sierra Nevadas) and chaparral (shrub land defining much of Southern California). 

“Both need fires,” he stressed. “They both have different fire regimes.”

Climate Change is a Concern, But Not Biggest Environmental Threat 

“This focus on climate change has distracted us, I think, from dealing with many of these more pressing [environmental] issues,” Shellenberger noted.

Climate change, he said, should be dealt with but isn’t the most serious problem out there.

Alternatively he said poverty, underdevelopment, the continued expansion of the human footprint (mostly through agriculture) and “the outright killing of wild animals” should concern people more. 

He also noted certain achievements, including less exhaustive land uses for meat production, can be celebrated too. 

Finding Common Ground on Environmental Issues 

“I wrote Apocalypse Never in part for my Republican friends,” the moderate Democrat noted.

 “I would love to see Republicans picking up a kind of environmentalism that I describe in the book or what I call a kind of “environmental humanism” (or a pro-human environmentalism) because I think if we’re not challenging the radical Left—if the Right is not challenging the radical Left—then those of us who favor a more humanistic environmentalism on the Left are not going to be able to succeed.”



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: climatealarmism; climatechange; environment; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; michaelshellenberger

1 posted on 09/25/2020 5:24:48 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I’ve been saying for a long time that you can’t run a modern technological civilization on wind, solar, and biomass. People need to face the consequences of what they’re advocating. California is starting to see it with power outages.


2 posted on 09/25/2020 5:44:15 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

California cannot reliable supply electric now, how are they going to support recharging 15 million cars?


3 posted on 09/25/2020 6:07:21 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox

That was pure political virtue-signaling by Gavin Newsom, nothing behind it in the way of a serious plan with lots of engineering number crunching to prove viability. It’s insanity.


4 posted on 09/25/2020 6:16:56 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
It’s insanity.

It's California.

5 posted on 09/25/2020 6:19:41 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats donate to bail money. Republicans donate to scholarships. ~ throwthebumsout)
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To: Kaslin

Where’s the meat in this article?

It’s a nothing burger.

Nothing about next-gen nuclear, which will eventually replace wind and solar.

Nothing about the overall HIGH COST of solar and wind power generation.

Nothing about birds flying into solar blades.

Basically, except for forest management, nothing about future (practical) environmentalism.

I like what he says and believes in, but this article just doesn’t say much.


6 posted on 09/25/2020 6:26:04 AM PDT by detch (")
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To: Lockbox
California cannot reliable supply electric now, how are they going to support recharging 15 million cars?

I know! I know! Force employers to install total roof solar power on all their buildings and provide free charging stations for all their employees, whether they have an electric vehicle or not.

This way the cars are charging while the sun is shining! Swing, graveyard shifts? No problem, the employer installs solar arrays on their home roofs!

Heck, it's a simple installation, you don't even need an inverter, since the car batteries charge with DC!

Easy-peasy, and it doesn't cost the state a dime, the entire burden falls on those eeeeevil people who are making money on the backs of those poor, poor woirkers!

7 posted on 09/25/2020 6:31:59 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats donate to bail money. Republicans donate to scholarships. ~ throwthebumsout)
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To: null and void
Solar panel directly changing an electric car? Guess the worker may show up once a week 🤣
8 posted on 09/25/2020 6:40:23 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox

Win-win!


9 posted on 09/25/2020 7:47:19 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats donate to bail money. Republicans donate to scholarships. ~ throwthebumsout)
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To: detch
”Nothing about next-gen nuclear, which will eventually replace wind and solar.“

I remember years ago that a highly respected scientist claimed that a Fukushima-like event would only happen once every 10,000 years. He was off by three orders of magnitude. I will wait until Fukushima is cleaned up before trying to assess its long term consequences and costs.

10 posted on 09/25/2020 8:45:52 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

Fukushima only happened because the outdated plant was forced to remain open well beyond its retirement date by not being replaced by more modern plants.


11 posted on 09/25/2020 9:08:35 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
I don’t claim to be an expert. What part of “outdated” caused the backup generators to be located where a tsunami could disable them?

Every accident I have heard of has a reasonable explanation for why the accident shouldn’t have happened. But it did happen.

12 posted on 09/25/2020 9:35:15 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell

Perhaps you could do some research on next-gen nuclear.

Not quite the same as Fukushima (and other non next-gen nuclear plants).

Our energy needs will NEVER be covered by wind and solar.


13 posted on 09/25/2020 9:42:34 AM PDT by detch (")
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To: William Tell

I don’t claim to be an expert. What part of “outdated” caused the backup generators to be located where a tsunami could disable them?


The ones where backup generators were required. The ones where the plant itself was closed down because it no longer needed to be by the ocean for a water source. And so forth.


14 posted on 09/25/2020 11:05:43 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: detch; William Tell
Perhaps you could do some research on next-gen nuclear.

Thorium.

FReegards!

1st-Annual-Freeper-Convention-1million-vet-march

15 posted on 09/25/2020 11:05:58 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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