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Is it time for a ‘whiff of grapeshot’ to bring the rioters to heel?
American Thinker ^ | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 09/25/2020 4:37:46 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Black Lives Matter and Antifa have a pattern: Whenever they don’t like something, they violently take to the streets to show their displeasure. Significantly, their protests are not localized. In cities across America, residents are being trained that, if they cross the mob, the mob will destroy them. Over five years, with accelerated speed in 2020, state and urban governments across America, by embracing the mob’s “defund the police” policy, have ceded their streets to the mob. This cannot continue. It is destabilizing America, especially now that the mob makes implicit and explicit threats of future violence if Americans don’t vote for Biden, the mob’s preferred candidate.

In times past, the great mass of a polity’s citizens had no say in their governance. Throughout the world, most political systems were tyrannical, with the tyrant being a monarch or theocracy – or, in many cases, a fusion of both. These bodies imposed their will on the people, dictating the all-important taxes, as well as imposing rules about property ownership, war service, rights to land and water, etc.

A wise ruling class made sure that the voiceless people were at least minimally happy. Corrupt, foolish, or evil ruling classes did not, instead controlling the people through force.

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When the people could no longer handle the tyranny under which they lived, they resorted to the only weapon they had: The mob.

*snip*

So, here we are in 2020, and the mob has done something never seen before in history: It has allied itself with the ruling class against the middle. The ruling class wants absolute power, unhindered by our representative democracy. The members of the mob want their spoils – the emotional gratification that comes from wreaking havoc and acquiring the power of fear over others, and the practical benefits of looting.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antifa; blm
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To: ClearCase_guy

I believe there will come a point where either the authorities are going to come down with force, or...our fellow citizens are.

If people come to burn our houses down, many of us won’t passively sit back and watch it happen


21 posted on 09/25/2020 5:12:20 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: RoosterRedux

The riots are only working in blue states and cities.

Florida, on the other hand, is gearing up to play hardball. Expect other states to follow suit.


22 posted on 09/25/2020 5:14:01 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Obadiah

Charge the DA’s federally with deprivation of civil rights under color of authority.

CC


23 posted on 09/25/2020 5:14:03 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: rlmorel
I have long thought there should be snipers overlooking this mess. When that cop was hit with a baseball bat, the guy should have been dropped with a shot to the chest.

Any cop who uses deadly force against an Antifa can expect to be prosecuted by Left-aligned prosecutors.

The purpose of police in Democrat cities is to maintain the PRETENSE that there is any resistance to the mob.

24 posted on 09/25/2020 5:16:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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SCARY----the mob taking over the streets has done something never seen before in history:
<><> allied itself with "the ruling class" against the middle class.
<><> "the ruling class" seeks absolute power, unhindered by our representative democracy.
<><> the mob wants their spoils – the emotional gratification that comes from wreaking havoc,
<><> acquiring the power of inflicting fear over others,
<><> the practical benefits of looting.
25 posted on 09/25/2020 5:17:28 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: rlmorel
You mean defend their houses? Like the McCloskey's?


26 posted on 09/25/2020 5:19:18 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

It is past time to stack their bodies, grab their IDs and cellphones, then go looking for their friends, families, and teachers. They have a lot to answer for.


27 posted on 09/25/2020 5:24:50 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security! (Ironic, huh?))
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To: lurk

Detroit played tough, but you are correct, many places, the mob is doing the work of the elected class.

I am not sure we can win with just the ballot box, which is ok with me.


28 posted on 09/25/2020 5:25:05 AM PDT by SteelPSUGOP
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To: Celtic Conservative
I hope the federal marshals and homeland security have some big democrats recorded coordinating with antifa. We can't count on the fib to do anything when wray calls Q a terrorist threat while he calls antifa an unorganized movement. The guy must be totally compromised.
29 posted on 09/25/2020 5:26:20 AM PDT by Rdct29 (Democrats are the new Nazi's. They think they deserve total control over the people)
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To: rlmorel

The people who are running the cops and the DA’s are on the side of the commie rioters. It’s that simple.


30 posted on 09/25/2020 5:27:21 AM PDT by Levy78
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To: BuffaloJack

Maybe.
Maybe not.
They have arms - you don’t think the only people driving weapons sales were decent ordinary people, do you?
They are looking for their Boston Massacre and Kent State moment, when they can justify armed attacks, not just against cops and people on the street but against people in their homes.
We get one chance to hit them before they weapon up. It needs to be hard and ruthless.
And they have organization - they will show up in mobs. One guy with a rifle might not be able to stop them.
We have guns, but we need friends. Do you know your neighbors? If the mob comes from you, will he stand with you? Will you stand with him?


31 posted on 09/25/2020 5:30:32 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security! (Ironic, huh?))
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To: RoosterRedux; PapaBear3625

A Molotov cocktail thrown at a house won’t be met by brandishing weapons.

Not sure where you are going with this. Are you saying that I am ignorant of the reality of the current situation?

Because I am not. But I do not believe as many apparently do that people will remain passive forever.

Current situations do not remain “current” in perpetuity.


32 posted on 09/25/2020 5:31:49 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: RoosterRedux

“ So, here we are in 2020, and the mob has done something never seen before in history: ”

Nope. We’ve seen this many times before. Marxist “revolution” 101.


33 posted on 09/25/2020 5:34:09 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Employment of M134’s and flamethrowers.


34 posted on 09/25/2020 5:38:08 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (BLM= Baby Lives Matter)
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To: RoosterRedux
Where are all those crowd control devices that we have read so much about in the science rags? You know, like the one that emits a noise that makes you vomit, or the one that “microwaves” you and makes you feel hot?
35 posted on 09/25/2020 5:39:04 AM PDT by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane')
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To: RoosterRedux

1930’s Germany, exactly.

I have a brother who is anti-semetic, and a loyal Democrat.

He’s foaming at the mouth, and it’s disgusting. I no longer speak to him.

I think of crystal nacht when I see BLM and Antifa destroying cities, with my brother cheering it on.


36 posted on 09/25/2020 5:41:10 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Levy78

That is the result of years of behind the scenes work, where the Left has pumped loads of money into these DA races, the same way the Soros Secretary of State project had pumped money into a races for a position most people don’t know or care much about and often just mark it on the ballot without thinking about it, but a position. that can have huge influences on election processes.

And that was small money spent for Big Bang, under the radar.

That is undeniable.

Maybe I still have faith in this country where so many others just throw up their hands and say nothing can be done.

I still believe people will fight back, and even if it hasn’t happened yet, I believe it will.

But


37 posted on 09/25/2020 5:42:34 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: RoosterRedux
Yes and no. Yes, defend our homes and businesses. No, not like the McCloskeys who did it in just about the dumbest way possible.

The time to defend your home is not facing off with a mob literally at the gates. The time to defend your home is when rioters start to assemble anywhere in your area. It is best to do your fighting somewhere else. So when the mob is threatening someplace down the street, or even part way across town, that is the time to get up, go and do something about it.

The actual tactics should be pure guerrilla. No-one should see you coming or going. You're not there to decisively engage the mob. You employ hit and run tactics. Do just enough of whatever it is you intend-to or are prepared-to do to get their attention, cause chaos, disrupt their plans. Then you fade away. I believe just one, maybe two or three such disruptions occurring in a short span of time would pretty well end a mob's activities for the day/evening. Once some success is evident at this, it will begin to occur all over.

38 posted on 09/25/2020 5:44:25 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps
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To: rlmorel
Are you saying that I am ignorant of the reality of the current situation?

Not at all. What I am saying is that this is a very complex situation and the Radical Left is setting it up for us to play into their hands (as the McCloskey's did).

I think that, after the election is over, Trump is going to send in Federal troops (Homeland Sec) to stand up to local DA's and mayors and governors.

I agree that in some locations people will stand up to the mob, but I think a lot of people in liberal cities will just move out (because the mob is fully supported by the mayors and DA's and media).

39 posted on 09/25/2020 5:45:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Black lives... black powder...

Whatever works.


40 posted on 09/25/2020 5:51:59 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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