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It was “by far the toughest flying I have ever done”, said helicopter pilot about rescuing trapped people at the Creek Fire
Fire Aviation ^ | Sept 9,2020 | Bill Gabbert

Posted on 09/09/2020 10:54:43 PM PDT by Norski

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To: Norski
The link worked fine. I see the normal results of fire. Most buildings burned to the ground since no firefighting took place. Others not burned since the fire didn't reach them. Of course trees didn't burn, they rarely burn in forest fires either, unless there's a lot of deadfall and brush under them which is unfortunately the case in a lot of California.

There's no evidence of fire more than about 1000 degrees in the deformed metal roofing which looks like corrugated aluminum. Burning cars will reach 1500 degrees (F) with no serious deformation of the steel. No evidence of high tempeartures than normal fire, e.g. no melted steel. Certainly not close enoiugh view to determine that anything other and wood and plastic burned.

The other poblem with the directed energy weapon theory is it needs too much energy to light even a single house, never mind a neighborhood. That energy doesn't exist in space. A few hundred MW continuous could do it. That would require a full size power plant in space. Doesn't exist. The closest I can find is 60 MW which is still too large to get into space.

The only scenario in which a space-based weapon makes sense is much lower power to set fires in grass. Do that in 100 places and they can easily burn a whole town. Even setting one grass fire would do it if they are willing to wait for it to spread and there is no firefighting response for that time.

It would be a lot easier and cheaper to send in drones with flammables on board or drive around and start fires.

21 posted on 09/11/2020 7:12:13 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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“The only scenario in which a space-based weapon makes sense is much lower power to set fires in grass. Do that in 100 places and they can easily burn a whole town. “
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Understand that it would be preferable that you be correct.

An unnerving issue is that removing one possibility here in no way precludes the other scenarios.

And unfortunately, this link below gives substance to the item you just mentioned.

Nice even rows of hotspots there.

https://wildfiretoday.com/2020/09/05/creek-fire-grows-rapidly-near-huntington-lake-california/


22 posted on 09/11/2020 10:07:51 PM PDT by Norski
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To: Norski
That's a limitation of the detector. Satellite fire detection is very inexact and is actually being used to claim there's more fire than there actually is.
23 posted on 09/12/2020 5:50:00 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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“That’s a limitation of the detector. Satellite fire detection is very inexact and is actually being used to claim there’s more fire than there actually is.”

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No - that line has only begun to be used since commentary on extremely regular dot lines in heat images has increased recently.

Many, if not most, heat signature dot lines are highly irregular. The extremely regular ones stand out like a sore thumb.


24 posted on 09/12/2020 11:04:03 PM PDT by Norski
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Many, if not most, heat signature dot lines are highly irregular.

Not from VIIRS which is what you posted. They are all in grids. Interior Washington state: https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#d:2020-09-12..2020-09-13;l:noaa20-viirs;@-121.7,44.8,13z

Interior southern California: https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#d:2020-09-12..2020-09-13;l:noaa20-viirs;@-119.2,37.4,12z

25 posted on 09/13/2020 7:08:59 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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You forgot this part:

“The extremely regular ones stand out like a sore thumb.”

Yes, grids. The portions that are extremely regular dot grids.

Not natural.


26 posted on 09/14/2020 1:06:37 AM PDT by Norski
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Courage. I think these are the guys that were told by the Fire Chief that NO FLIGHTS WOULD BE ALLOWED. It was too dangerous. (”Sorry Chief!”)

A buddy of mine was a Fire Chief. Years ago he was telling me that once the Fire Chief arrived at a fire - HE was in charge of all the police, medics, etc.

I have no idea if the Chief would authority over the military or not!


27 posted on 09/14/2020 1:11:46 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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