Posted on 09/07/2020 12:50:16 PM PDT by familyop
The president went on to claim that the vaccine could become available “during the month of October.”...He added: “The vaccine will be very safe and very effective.” Trump slammed Democrats, saying they should “apologize for the reckless anti-vaccine rhetoric,” which he said “undermines science and what’s happening.” “It’s a fake rhetoric and a political rhetoric,” he added.
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I am far from an antivaxxer but I won’t be getting this one.
There is pretty clear black and white when it comes to the fundamental understandings of biology.
That being said, these vaccines have all gone through Phase I - III trials, so it does not appear corners have been cut.
I dont find you unreasonable, however I think you are misconstruing what I have said. People are using demonstrably incorrect science to advance an agenda. As the ol saying goes, you are entitled to the facts but not YOUR facts (thats the generic your, not you specifically).
What is vexing is our complete lost of American Can Do represented by these groups. Trump is one of the greatest presidents in histrory, and may even be better than Regan. He actually very straightforwardly keeps his work and promises. And yet even a forum allegedly dedicated to the conservative movement is taking him apart because of the members insistence they understand complex science behind a process.
The Manhattan project is widely acclaimed to be the gold standard for scientific triumph of achieving the impossible in a short amount of time. I guess we in Freeper land have lost this — and are willing to abdicate our American birthright of ingenuity and getting things done to the hand writing pearl clutchers.
It is sad beyond words.
If President Trump comes out with a vaccine before the election, the Marxist Media will claim it’s fake. President Trump will have to prove the vaccine is for real.
You are incorrect. The literature shows that immunity from ing antibodies last only a few months, however, T cell stimulation is noted with this virus. The Russian and two of the American Vaccines plus the Oxford vaccine demonstrate T-cell stimulation — so immunity is conferred.
But even if immunity is periodic we get yearly flu vaccines, yearly corona vaccines would certainly be in the realm of normal.
I’ve never been anti-vaccine but I’m not wanting this one, thank you.
The Lancet, a respectable medical journal has touted the Russian vaccine as being effective.
Not sure what they’re waiting for. Russian medical researchers are as good as any in the world and if they’re pumping out an effective vaccine those who are in need of one would be best to get in line... I won’t be bothering with any vaccine because I’m a healthy adult with no underlying medical conditions... If I had an underlying medical condition I would be gladly vaccinated and I wouldn’t care if it came from Russia, China or Bulgaria... As long it works.
I don’t need a vaccine for something I don’t have to worry about. Vaccines work but why bother for something that doesn’t kill anyone or make people my age sick?
And Trump should get a Vaccine Shot on Live TV and call it the Trump Shot. He can say this will give the economy a Shot In Arm. If it is safe and FDA approved, then he should get it. Removes all heir fear monger and he didn’t do it enough to stop the virus talking point. He eliminated classic Govt Red Tape
No they were specifically talking about skipping the stage 3 trials.
Even the DemonRats won’t take it.
Some of the volunteers received the second shot for Phase 3 for one of the vaccines ten days ago. Some may have received it earlier (don’t know). A Phase 1 subject received a shot in February. At least one of the development efforts went well beyond the safety and effectiveness requirements. All of the testing could be wrapped up in well under two months because of the great results so far. With manufacturing being done concurrently, the vaccine will be safe and distributed soon.
Please let me know one thing I said that contradicts fundamental biology.
The question is why are you trying to suppress Hydroxychloroquine and other medications that may help fight Coronavirus?
Camel and Ole Joey will be on claiming that the “ right scientists” didn’t approve this.
Then Mighty Might will weasel word enough for the MSM to say see “ The Expert”
also says No Go...
Today’s medical establishment often ignores science. Why do doctors still use basic cholesterol numbers as an indicator of heart health, and prescribe medication on the, when scientific studies tell us that is a poor indicator of heart health, and we have much better ones like homocysteine?
Why I Volunteered for Moderna Inc.’s Phase 3 Clinical mRNA Vaccine Study
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3881712/posts
A FReeper is also participating in Phase 3, which is well under way (more than a month).
Fauci started the Chinese working on the vaccine right after he perfected the virus. In 2017 and I bet Nancy already got hers
Correction here, where I wrote...
“At least one of them started Phase 3 injections last month.”
The second injections for Phase 3 were given last month. The first injections were administered well *more* than a month ago.
Considering that I have prescribed HCQ and azithromycin numerous times and used it with my critically ill patients and used it probably far more recently than you could imagine hypothetically speaking, why would you go right the assumption that I am suppressing this therapeutic?
There is a difference between therapy and prevention — the Oath of Hippocrates says that prevention is preferable in every case to therapy — they can actually work together. This is the problem with this board — and you accuse me of of black and white? We are probably close to the same page, so please dont make assumptions — again — what have I again said that is factually inaccurate.
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