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Trump claims coronavirus vaccine might be delivered soon: 'You could have a very big surprise coming up'
Fox News ^ | September 7, 2020 | Brooke Singman

Posted on 09/07/2020 12:50:16 PM PDT by familyop

The president went on to claim that the vaccine could become available “during the month of October.”...He added: “The vaccine will be very safe and very effective.” Trump slammed Democrats, saying they should “apologize for the reckless anti-vaccine rhetoric,” which he said “undermines science and what’s happening.” “It’s a fake rhetoric and a political rhetoric,” he added.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; mandatory; nickcarraway; somuchwinning; trollsareout; trumpvaccine; trumpwinsagain
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To: Mom MD

Well a 100 years ago was 1920 so perhaps children born from 1880 to 1910 or so were as you describe. Children born in 1920 had much different outcomes as medicine was making huge strides then...at least in the Western nations.

Not a criticism though. As an adult I still think of farms and horse and buggy as 100 years ago as I did say as of 25 years ago in 1995. I realised recently I have to start saying “150 years ago” for some historical perspectives I try to draw from. Getting old I guess...


181 posted on 09/08/2020 6:09:26 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: gas_dr

Not an anti-vaxer, certain ones work well. No way in HELL will I take this vaccine. Last 1 was Swine Flu, ER trip due to 2 weeks of bathroom hell. IV for dehydration as I do know how to treat it. Specialist advised no more vaccines, to many health issues.


182 posted on 09/08/2020 6:40:59 AM PDT by GailA (I'm a Trump Girl)
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To: DoodleBob

Better to have required vaccination with FDA-approved safe and effective vaccines than no return to REAL normal!!!!

And at the same time, there MUST be a total end to the communist revolution in our cities! Deploy the National Guard as necessary!!!! And of course elect Republicans—from President down to the proverbial dogcatcher!!!!

The Biden campaign claims that Trump has failed to get “control of the virus”, but a Biden/Harris Presidency will do so! We DO NOT want their kinds of controls!!!! Universal vaccination with FDA-approved safe and effective vaccines is a lot better!!!!


183 posted on 09/08/2020 9:53:40 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: eartick

I’m ready:)


184 posted on 09/08/2020 2:57:49 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Freedom, Freedom, We will not obey!- “Breakdown”- The Alan Parsons Project)
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To: gas_dr
I'm no democrat and I don't know that seventh grade biology is interested in anything but sexual confusion based on news articles buuuut I would like to know why years ago Congress and the supreme court removed pharmaceutical companies responsibility for damages caused by vaccines and turned damage coverage over to the taxpayers.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-rejects-vaccine-lawsuit/

In a 6-2 decision, the justices said Congress had effectively shut the courthouse door to these lawsuits in 1986, when it created a special vaccine court designed to compensate victims of vaccine injuries.

The decision immediately was hailed by the American Academy of Pediatrics, which said it would safeguard the nation's vaccine supply by protecting vaccine makers from potentially crippling legal liability--which could have driven manufacturers out of the vaccine market.

Fauci, Gates, et al got nothing to worry about, that's why they all got them crocodile smiles.

185 posted on 09/08/2020 4:01:30 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman (Keep in mind, the Gates of hell shall not prevail against you.)
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To: familyop

Actually the Phase 3 trial requires 30000 participants so there is some time lag as people volunteer and are cleared through the process. First shots to some were given in late July and the second shot 29 days later was thus in late August. As of last week they still need volunteers for the Moderna mRNA version and were still giving first shots. That being said the phase 3 participants are likely reaching a stage where a statistically significant number have been exposed and I would suspect the placebo group contracting the disease vs what is happening to the group actually receiving the vaccine is giving early indications of effectiveness. It would not be surprising at all for a reasonable conclusion being sustainable in mid October with the data Avalilable to back it up. Phase 3 participants will be providing data for 24 months, and there’s no way we can wait 2 years for the full study completion.


186 posted on 09/08/2020 5:53:36 PM PDT by LibertyOh
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So, we could be in for a big surprise ...

CNN endorses Donald Trump for President.


187 posted on 09/08/2020 6:00:11 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Pray for health, economic recovery, and justice.)
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

For later

Lifetime odds of death for selected causes, United States, 2018
Cause of Death Odds of Dying
Heart disease 1 in 6


188 posted on 09/08/2020 8:09:04 PM PDT by politicianslie (I took HCQ+Zn on the 3rd day of symptoms. HCQ+Zn is a grand slam home run CURE!)
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To: LibertyOh
"It would not be surprising at all for a reasonable conclusion being sustainable in mid October with the data Avalilable to back it up."

I'm guessing that many of the locations for participation are also close to dense populations, so yes.

"Phase 3 participants will be providing data for 24 months, and there’s no way we can wait 2 years for the full study completion."

On safety, I just had another look at when the first participant for Phase 1 was dosed.

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/nih-clinical-trial-investigational-vaccine-covid-19-begins

March 16th! Almost 6 months! Looking good!

189 posted on 09/08/2020 9:19:02 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: nickcarraway
When did the Chicken Pox vaccine come out. When I was a kid you just got it, and that was the vaccine.

LOL... you inadvertently revealed that you are a relative youngster compared to many if not most in this forum. When I was a kid my parents announced that they were taking us over to their friend's house so we could catch chicken pox from their kids so we would be immune when we got older when it would be a problem. That was the equivalent to a vaccine at that time.

190 posted on 09/09/2020 8:51:07 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: familyop

https://steemit.com/health/@gungasnake/un-admits-that-gates-funded-vaccine-causing-polio-outbreak-in-africa-and-how-to-avoid-cv19-altogether


191 posted on 09/09/2020 4:38:51 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: gas_dr
put your own agenda and ignorance on display just so you feel good about being against science.

If science really mattered Hydroxychloroquine would be available to anyone who wants it.

192 posted on 09/11/2020 11:13:48 AM PDT by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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To: nickcarraway
Why do doctors still use basic cholesterol numbers as an indicator of heart health

How many ulcer surgeries were carried out long after we knew ulcers were caused by bacteria, treatable with antibiotics? Which one made the Dr. more money, just asking?

193 posted on 09/11/2020 11:28:24 AM PDT by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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To: itsahoot
I hope they stopped performing surgeries once we knew the cause was bacteria.

I don't know that doctors benefit by prescribing Statins, but it's an accepted practice. Statins will lower your cholesterol numbers, but as far as I know it hasn't been shown to change overall mortality.

194 posted on 09/11/2020 11:58:24 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: itsahoot

That’s not exactly true


195 posted on 09/11/2020 12:24:25 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: nickcarraway
who is going to choose which one, "wins?"

Only the ones who don't die from them. {:~)

196 posted on 09/11/2020 1:01:43 PM PDT by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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To: nickcarraway
When I was a kid you just got it, and that was the vaccine.

When one kid got it, mothers in the neighborhood brought their kids over for their vaccine. {:~)

197 posted on 09/11/2020 1:05:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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To: familyop

When it’s ready the left is hoping it kills people, and then they will blame Trump. If it’s not ready soon, they will blame Trump. If it works, they’ll blame Trump for delaying it. They’ve blamed him for the riots, the chicom virus, the hurricanes and everything else that has happened.


198 posted on 09/11/2020 1:35:12 PM PDT by I want the USA back (19 religious fanatics flew occupied planes into occupied buildings killing 3,000. WTC Lives Matter.)
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To: gas_dr
That’s not exactly true Really is it available for cover? No it isn't, certainly not in my state and that includes the VA that has been prescribing it for many many years, it is just not allowed for Covid.

Spain has reported a 30% decrease in covid deaths when they use it. Usually when a medicine reduces death 30% they call it a miracle drug.

The decision to not allow the use of Hydroxychloroquine is purely political not medically scientific and any honest assessment of existing data it should be apparent to anyone with scientific training.

The fact is we have a 75 year history with this medication showing it is basically harmless, I suspect Tylenol is more dangerous. The claim it is dangerous is pure B$ that I believe was designed to increase the death statistics to harm Trump. The fact that Oregon(entire state) and L A, CA have both announced that schools will not open until after the election shows the true motivation.

199 posted on 09/11/2020 2:59:08 PM PDT by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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To: nickcarraway
but as far as I know it hasn't been shown to change overall mortality.

Me either. The modern stents work wonders, had mine for over 10 years. I was a walking dead man with 95% blockage of the widow make artery as well as a bunch of other arteries that needed stents. In for angio in the morning playing a poker tournament at 6:00 that evening.

I have since modified my diet to a slightly dirty version of Keto which keeps triglycerides and A1c in check. I drink 6 to 8 cups of strong coffee with about 4 oz of heavy cream every morning, eggs, butter, steak and bacon galore. Had another angio about a year ago everything still ok doc said. Now 82 and slowed down considerable but doing fine otherwise. Anything that tastes good I can't have, other wise A1c shoots up to 12 and blood sugar over 500. Blood sugar still remains high but A1c was 5 last check.

200 posted on 09/11/2020 3:12:50 PM PDT by itsahoot (The ability to read auto correct is necessary to read my posts understanding them is another matter.)
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