Wow.
Okay, I had reached a point where I did accept Fauci as a political hack and this smells strongly of why I came to that conclusion. I will attempt to impart some of what I know on my fellow Freepers, but consider this not the final word, but a "best effort" to educate those who might have no idea.
And if there is another Freeper who understands this in more detail than I do, please correct me on any point.
I expect this is the type of data Fauci is referring to that has caused this suspicion in people:
I could be wrong on this, and admit I am no expert but am familiar with certain aspects. If someone dies, a death certificate must be completed. At this point, I leave an area of direct knowledge and enter into an area I have to extrapolate to, and I could be wrong or misleading. That said, I expect it works as follows:
- Medical personnel of some sort usually a physician (or, in some states, a physician assistant or nurse practitioner under a doctor’s authority), medical examiner, or coroner. must fill out and sign a cause of death. Information must be gathered from the medical record, autopsy result, even witnesses, etc.
- Medical personnel filling out this form will often have what are called ICD10 (International Classification of Diseases 10th version) codes attached. ICD10 codes are alphanumeric codes used to describe what the cause of death was. The codes are mind-numbingly comprehensive as the examples below show. When I am performing testing on a system, I like to use W59.22XA: (Struck By turtle). There are codes for being hit by falling icicle (small) and also codes for being hit by a medium or large icicle. So as you can see, they have something for everything.
- I have listed some examples of ICD10 codes below to show not only the silly side of it, but to demonstrate that these are comprehensive. In addition to a ICD10 code W21.11XA (Struck by baseball bat, initial encounter) there are probably more of them that might be placed on that same form such as S02.91X (Unspecified fracture of skull, initial encounter for open fracture) Again, I have have to specify I. have never been involved with this side of coding, though I have seen other sides in medicine. But I assume they choose these based on history and direct medical examination for cause of death. Every single one of these has some kind of instruction with it, to guide the person applying the code in proper use, but those instructions are often quite difficult to interpret.
- W61.33: Pecked by a chicken
- W220.2XD: Walked into lamppost, subsequent encounter
- W61.33: Pecked by a chicken
- W61.62XD: Struck by duck, subsequent encounter
- W55.41XA: Bitten by pig, initial encounter
- W59.22XA: Struck By turtle
- R46.1: Bizarre personal appearance
- Z63.1: Problems in relationship with in-laws
- V97.33XD: Sucked into jet engine, subsequent encounter
- R15.2: Fecal urgency
- Y92.253: Opera house as the place of occurrence of the external cause
- V9135XA: Hit or struck by falling object due to accident to canoe or kayak
- X52: Prolonged stay in weightless environment
- V94810: Civilian watercraft involved in water transport accident with military watercraft
- Y92241: Hurt at the library
- Y92.146: Swimming-pool of prison as the place of occurrence of the external cause
- Y93.D1: Stabbed while crocheting
- S10.87XA: Other superficial bite of other specified part of neck, initial encounter
- Y93.D: V91.07XD: Burn due to water-skis on fire, subsequent encounter
- V00.01XD: Pedestrian on foot injured in collision with roller-skater, subsequent encounter
- W22.02XD: V95.43XS: Spacecraft collision injuring occupant,sequela
- I would be astonished if a qualified person simply willy-nilly entered any applicable code in any order. They most likely require them to be listed in order of relevance to death. A person with a stab wound to the heart may have killed them so that would probably go in the PRIMARY or first slot. If they had a blunt force trauma to the skull, an autopsy would likely reveal which of those two happened first and mainly resulted in death stabbed and killed, then hit in the head with a bat to be sure kind of thing, which might go in the secondary slot, and so on. And I readily admit that the level of knowledge of HOW this takes place, the decision of what to populate the primary cause of death with, secondary cause, etc. Almost all medical specialties have specific people called Coders who specialize in the process of applying codes. Some specialize in Radiology. Some specialize in Cardiology. Some specialize in Dermatology. And I am sure there are some who specialize in Pathology. In most specialties (using Radiology as an example, in my experience, except in small or very advanced practices, the Radiologists do not enter their own codes. They dictate a result, and a Coder who specializes in Radiology reads the report, decides how to apply ICD10 codes, and applies them. Occasionally, they may communicate to a Radiologist and ask them to change/addend a report to clarify a point, but the coders determine.
Point is, if someone died, and COVID is the only thing listed via an ICD10 code on their death certificate, COVID is what killed them. Full stop. Nothing else.
But if I look at the death certificate or wherever they list the cause(s) of death and I see an ICD10 code U07.1 ( for COVID-19) but also see other ICD10 codes such as C50.919 (Malignant neoplasm of unspecified site of unspecified female breast) and a ICD of K63.1 (Perforation of intestine (nontraumatic)) and also see a C71.1 (Malignant Neoplasm of frontal lobe) to my eye, this person was going to die of complications of cancer, not COVID19.
As the graphic above shows, someone thinks the public is being misled, and I am inclined to agree. It would be my guess that if a patient tested positive for COVID19, there may be formal instructions from CMS or CDC to be placed at the top of the list of pathologies the comprise in their whole the cause of a patient's death. NOTE: That is complete speculation. I have no idea if this is the case, perhaps someone else may have insight into it.
So, when I hear Fauci quoted (assuming it is an active quote) and he says:
"...That does not mean that someone who has hypertension, or diabetes who dies of COVID didn't die of COVID-19. They did..."
I am deeply troubled and astonished by that statement. It sounds like he is playing word games, to lie and mislead without explicitly mouthing a lie.
