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Parents Got More Time Off. Then the Backlash Started.
The New York Times ^
| 05 Sept 2020
| Daisuke Wakabayashi and Sheera Frenkel
Posted on 09/05/2020 12:07:57 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: 9YearLurker
Lol, were they slaves? They could go work for someone who more valued minorities and women. And under my rock...that where freedom lives.
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posted on
09/05/2020 1:31:07 PM PDT
by
Trailerpark Badass
(“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
To: Trailerpark Badass
When I was an employer, my only concern was making sure they showed up for their shifts and not stealing my booze. LOL. I don't even keep that around my office, so I guess I have one less concern than you did!
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posted on
09/05/2020 1:35:09 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
To: Theoria
but it’s true. and God Forbid if it’s a single mom..... you have to do all her work with a smile.
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posted on
09/05/2020 1:37:20 PM PDT
by
ronniesgal
(Q. why did the chicken cross the road? A. It's Trumps fault and you're a racist!)
To: Theoria
When Ross Perot was running EDS, he only wanted to hire married employees with children, figuring they would be more loyal because of their increased responsibilities at home, in other words, they couldn’t afford to be out of job.
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posted on
09/05/2020 1:39:19 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: dfwgator
One of the great paradoxes in the modern world is that societies that provide the most "family friendly" work places -- usually by law -- tend to have the lowest birthrates in the history of the human race.
How odd is it that "encouraging families" almost universally does the exact opposite?
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posted on
09/05/2020 1:39:53 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
To: Alberta's Child
Well, I owned a bar, before modern POS systems were a thing. Had to keep an eye on those rascals giving away free drinks to their friends.
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posted on
09/05/2020 1:40:06 PM PDT
by
Trailerpark Badass
(“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
To: Theoria
The child free and proud losers are free to work elsewhere.
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posted on
09/05/2020 1:41:54 PM PDT
by
Stravinsky
(Politeness will not defeat the Marxist revolutionaries)
To: Alberta's Child
I always point out that when you subtract all of the additional expenses you incur just so both parents can work, in the end, it really isn’t all the advantageous.
For example, you might only need one car, if one parent works. Money on work clothes, daycare, more eating out, it all adds up.
68
posted on
09/05/2020 1:43:07 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: Trailerpark Badass
Well, that explains it. LOL!
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posted on
09/05/2020 1:43:19 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
To: JudgemAll
To: dfwgator
That’s a good point about Ross Perot and EDS. But I’ll bet his focus — certainly earlier on — was on hiring men with wives and kids at home.
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posted on
09/05/2020 1:44:48 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
To: Alberta's Child
Also he hired Veterans returning from Vietnam.
Wished now I’d voted for him in 1992.
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posted on
09/05/2020 1:45:28 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: Alberta's Child; dfwgator
‘One of the great paradoxes in the modern world is that societies that provide the most “family friendly” work places — usually by law — tend to have the lowest birthrates in the history of the human race.
‘How odd is it that “encouraging families” almost universally does the exact opposite?’
You’re making an unfounded assumption about which is the cause and which the effect.
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posted on
09/05/2020 1:49:21 PM PDT
by
NobleFree
("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
To: NobleFree
It's not exactly an unfounded assumption.
Any workplace policy that flies in the face of sound economic principles is likely to have destructive consequences.
When God cast Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden and told them that they and their children would have to work for a living, He didn't offer any comfort by assuring them that they'd at least have a good "work-life balance." :-)
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posted on
09/05/2020 2:03:14 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
To: 9YearLurker
People that buy and sell can work from home.
Brokers that line up buyers and sellers can work from home.
My profession is manufacturing, so working from home is a foreign concept I’m still trying to wrap my head around.
The Bob’s from the movie ‘Office Space’ will have a field day with the work at home crowd.
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posted on
09/05/2020 2:08:39 PM PDT
by
unclebankster
(globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
To: Alberta's Child
The higher the birth rate, the less the perceived need for family friendly policies. QED.
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posted on
09/05/2020 2:09:43 PM PDT
by
NobleFree
("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
To: Trailerpark Badass
Lol, EXACTLY!! sez who?
Me, obviously. Along with everyone else who doesn't see any reason why people who choose to have kids should get special financial favors. And I say that as someone with kids - I chose to have them and I don't deserve special rights because of my choices.
To: AnotherUnixGeek
Rights? Im talking about a contract with an employer. Dont like the terms, dont sign it. Jeez, is this still a conservative website?
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posted on
09/05/2020 2:17:55 PM PDT
by
Trailerpark Badass
(“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
To: Alberta's Child
“Any workplace policy that flies in the face of sound economic principles is likely to have destructive consequences.”
Which does not imply that encouraging families will do the exact opposite.
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posted on
09/05/2020 2:22:33 PM PDT
by
NobleFree
("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
To: NobleFree
How does that explain the decline of marriage in general -- even aside from any considerations for children -- in those same societies that provide the most generous "family friendly" policies?
What often gets overlooked in these conversations in that these policies have destructive side effects that are driven by two factors: (1) a loss of productivity from the separation of work effort from compensation; and (2) the breakdown of families from the replacement of family responsibilities by employer and/or government largesse.
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posted on
09/05/2020 2:24:26 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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